ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:

ps3.B-DizzleSchaar wrote:

very good post and absolutely correct. The raiders, terrible team are often hard to beat because the team is soooo fast.

Too fast. I hate how in reality Chris Johnson gets beaten deep but on Madden this supposed 97 SPD he has makes it difficult, not to mention Asomugha is a 99 MCV 93 SPD, then they have a SS with a 93 SPD, so most teams can play man, blitz, and mix up zones to have this defense play elite when in reality they are one of the worst teams against the run and they get beaten by pass here and there. Then you have Lechler and Se-Bas so the kicking game favors them, then on offense they can cheese with McFadden, and the WR's with all this SPD, it's crazy.

Every year we all go through this Raiders stuff.

The solution to me is make them have SPD but bring down their ACC, BSH, & PUR ratings, that way they would be giving up the big play like they do in reality.

Just take a look at the Raiders BSH & PUR ratings when you get a chance.

Unreal.

yeah I hear ya man. everything is unreal with that team, I cant stand playing them

xbox.RaiderNation90 wrote:

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:

ps3.B-DizzleSchaar wrote:

very good post and absolutely correct. The raiders, terrible team are often hard to beat because the team is soooo fast.

Too fast. I hate how in reality Chris Johnson gets beaten deep but on Madden this supposed 97 SPD he has makes it difficult, not to mention Asomugha is a 99 MCV 93 SPD, then they have a SS with a 93 SPD, so most teams can play man, blitz, and mix up zones to have this defense play elite when in reality they are one of the worst teams against the run and they get beaten by pass here and there. Then you have Lechler and Se-Bas so the kicking game favors them, then on offense they can cheese with McFadden, and the WR's with all this SPD, it's crazy.

Every year we all go through this Raiders stuff.

The solution to me is make them have SPD but bring down their ACC, BSH, & PUR ratings, that way they would be giving up the big play like they do in reality.

Just take a look at the raiders BSH & PUR ratings when you get a chance.

Unreal.

but that is what al davis looks for. speed at every position. and every player is fast basically i mean yea chris johnson does get burnt alot, but thats because he goes to jam a wr at the snap and hes not srtrong enough and the reciever has the extra step. but when someone gets in the open field its either michael huff chris johnson or tyvone branch chasing them down

yeah but thats the problem, all everyone does its blitz like crazy, and because of the teams speed certain things happen...1) you get sacked by the CB or hit by him so the throw goes no where 2) they make the raiders jam the WR every play and for some reason they make it impossible to break the coverage. and when they jam, since nobody can get open it leaves you for that sack. 3) the LBs are soooo overated on that team, ands with that cheap blitz where everybody lines the LB up over the center thats causes problems too.

its the same thing everytime you play against the raiders, jam the WRs/TEs, blitz a CB and LBs...because they make the Defense to good and to fast. I mean, I usually beat the Riaders but it is by far the hardest team to play on the game IMO. Also, they make Jamarcus Russell way to good on this game. I mean, I have throws with Farve that go no where near my WRs but Russell is perfect every time I play them, never a bad throw

ps3.B-DizzleSchaar wrote:

xbox.RaiderNation90 wrote:

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:

ps3.B-DizzleSchaar wrote:

very good post and absolutely correct. The raiders, terrible team are often hard to beat because the team is soooo fast.

Too fast. I hate how in reality Chris Johnson gets beaten deep but on Madden this supposed 97 SPD he has makes it difficult, not to mention Asomugha is a 99 MCV 93 SPD, then they have a SS with a 93 SPD, so most teams can play man, blitz, and mix up zones to have this defense play elite when in reality they are one of the worst teams against the run and they get beaten by pass here and there. Then you have Lechler and Se-Bas so the kicking game favors them, then on offense they can cheese with McFadden, and the WR's with all this SPD, it's crazy.

Every year we all go through this Raiders stuff.

The solution to me is make them have SPD but bring down their ACC, BSH, & PUR ratings, that way they would be giving up the big play like they do in reality.

Just take a look at the raiders BSH & PUR ratings when you get a chance.

Unreal.

but that is what al davis looks for. speed at every position. and every player is fast basically i mean yea chris johnson does get burnt alot, but thats because he goes to jam a wr at the snap and hes not srtrong enough and the reciever has the extra step. but when someone gets in the open field its either michael huff chris johnson or tyvone branch chasing them down

yeah but thats the problem, all everyone does its blitz like crazy, and because of the teams speed certain things happen...1) you get sacked by the CB or hit by him so the throw goes no where 2) they make the raiders jam the WR every play and for some reason they make it impossible to break the coverage. and when they jam, since nobody can get open it leaves you for that sack. 3) the LBs are soooo overated on that team, ands with that cheap blitz where everybody lines the LB up over the center thats causes problems too.

its the same thing everytime you play against the raiders, jam the WRs/TEs, blitz a CB and LBs...because they make the Defense to good and to fast. I mean, I usually beat the Raiders but it is by far the hardest team to play on the game IMO. Also, they make Jamarcus Russell way to good on this game. I mean, I have throws with Farve that go no where near my WRs but Russell is perfect every time I play them, never a bad throw

Same here I usually beat the Raiders, mostly real bad, even high ranked Raiders users, you seen 1 you've seen them all. But they are the hardest team to play because of all that nonsense and them being overrated in several positions. I guarantee if they lowered their BSH, PUR, and ACC they'd be like they really are. What's funny is...they usually split with the Chiefs every year, but if you play them with the Chiefs they have a superior speed advantage which is garbage.

In reality Chris Johnson gets burned deep, short, intermediate, he played good in 2008 when they cut DeAngelo Hall but this year he's been toast.

This year with Russell coming down and Gradkowski being average their offense is limited, so I can usually shut the offense down, then on their defense I attack Asomugha, but most cheesers put Asomugha at FS with Branch with Johnson and Rout on the outsides, or they'll play that cheesy Nickel 1-5-5 and use Mike Mitchell their hardest HIT Stick guy to roam.

I kill their nanos but I hate when in the open field all this speed catches players and saves some TD's.

I mix my coverages on Russell and put pressure on him, you can get some picks, especially on these snap and QB Sprint to the flat users.

i got some plays that will absolutly burn that style of defense ......... u know the nano blits with the bumped man to man coverage i love it when people try an play that defense on me cause i hit em deep u have to ether have a real fast reciever or a reciever with maybe like 89 speed with great route running and u can burn them for SIXXXX!!!!!

i play with the wide screen view ............. WHAT i do is read the corner that is the fastest way to read the DEFENSE!!

now if its man to man or a cover 2 defense that is the only time ur recievers will get jammed at the LINE

OK SO IF U HOT ROUT A SLANT TO THE SIDELINE AGAINST LETS SAY A COVER 1......... UR RECIEVER USUALY WONT GET JAMED AND THE SAFTY WILL PLAY OVER THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD ONCE UR RECIEVER GOES TO THE SIDLEINE ON THE SLANT IT BASICALLY TURNS INTO A STREAK.................. BUT BE CAUSE HE SLANTS ON THE ROUTE AT THE BEGGINNING HE BURNS THE CB!!!!!!!!!!! JUST LOB THE BALL TO HIM HELL USUALY BE WIDE OPEN OR STILL HAVE GREAT POSITION TO CATCH THE BALL DEEEEEEEEEEPPPPP!!!!!!!!


IT DOESNT HAVE TO BE A COVER ONE ETHERE IF ITS MAN TO MAN AND THE GUY LIKES TO PATROL THE MIDDLE OF THE FIELD WITH HIS FS!!!!!!!! HIT EM OVER THE TOP.......

ALSO THIS IS EASYIEST DOWN WITH OUTSIDE RECIEVER ON THE LEFT USUALY UR NUMBER @ WIDE OUT ITS HARDER TO READ THE CORNER ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FIELD U JUST CANT SEE HIM AS GOOD FOR SUM REASON


AND THE SLANT WIL BEAT A COVER 2 ALSO SOON AS HE GETS OFF THE JAM THROW A BULLET PASS HE WILL BE INBETWEEN THE SAFTY AND THE CORNER

IT WILL BEAST A COVER 3 AS LONG AS DAMARCUS WARE ISNT PLAYIN LINEBACKER CAUSE HIS SPEED WHEN U SNAP THE BALL AND U SEE THE CORNER BACK PEDDLING FAST IN THE DEEP BLUE ZONE WITCH IS A COVER THREE THROW IT AS FAST AS POSSIBLE EASY 10 YARDS OR MORE!!!!!!!!! IF HE BREAKS A TACKLE I HAVE SCORED ALOT ON THIS ROUTE

SLLANT TO THE SIDELINES IS THE BEST ROUT IN MADDEN WAY BETTER THAN ANY WHEELL ROUT!!!!!!!!!! ILL LAB IT ONLINE IF NE ONE WANTS TO SEE FIRST HAND HOW GREAT IT IS!!!!!!!!!!!

ps3.Xx_KILLxALL_xX wrote:i got some plays that will absolutly burn that style of defense ......... u know the nano blits with the bumped man to man coverage i love it when people try an play that defense on me cause i hit em deep u have to ether have a real fast reciever or a reciever with maybe like 89 speed with great route running and u can burn them for SIXXXX!!!!!

Yep, so many unbumpable routes kill that style.

I can burn it deep with a TE or WR.

yea that will work good 2 i usualy try an stay away from the middle of the field tho cause good madden players realy guard it because it has been one of the easiest wasy to pick up yardage in madden this year slants and wow i defnatly hate the drag route with a passion but i like it when i can make a guy string out a long drive i usually end up commi8ng up with a turn over and if not im def throwing a TD right back ne ways lol

now the one thing i do not like in this years maddens is i believe that THE PLAY ACTIONS OUR OVERLY EFFECTIVE

they frustrate me sumtimes i mean sum guys play action every time the pass the ball also and yea i dont mind the play action its just overly used and is more irratating than ne thing i only use one play action play!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dont realy like them i think most of the our so cheesy specialy THE CHEESY PA STRETCH!!!!!!! UGH I HATE IT

the running back will get open in the zone every time and if u play man u shut him down and let the tight ends and wide outs open down the field lol so annoyin

i do use a cover2 to stop it tho cause like i said as long as i aint givven up quick scores im happy

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:

ps3.B-DizzleSchaar wrote:

xbox.RaiderNation90 wrote:

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:

ps3.B-DizzleSchaar wrote:

very good post and absolutely correct. The raiders, terrible team are often hard to beat because the team is soooo fast.

Too fast. I hate how in reality Chris Johnson gets beaten deep but on Madden this supposed 97 SPD he has makes it difficult, not to mention Asomugha is a 99 MCV 93 SPD, then they have a SS with a 93 SPD, so most teams can play man, blitz, and mix up zones to have this defense play elite when in reality they are one of the worst teams against the run and they get beaten by pass here and there. Then you have Lechler and Se-Bas so the kicking game favors them, then on offense they can cheese with McFadden, and the WR's with all this SPD, it's crazy.

Every year we all go through this Raiders stuff.

The solution to me is make them have SPD but bring down their ACC, BSH, & PUR ratings, that way they would be giving up the big play like they do in reality.

Just take a look at the raiders BSH & PUR ratings when you get a chance.

Unreal.

but that is what al davis looks for. speed at every position. and every player is fast basically i mean yea chris johnson does get burnt alot, but thats because he goes to jam a wr at the snap and hes not srtrong enough and the reciever has the extra step. but when someone gets in the open field its either michael huff chris johnson or tyvone branch chasing them down

yeah but thats the problem, all everyone does its blitz like crazy, and because of the teams speed certain things happen...1) you get sacked by the CB or hit by him so the throw goes no where 2) they make the raiders jam the WR every play and for some reason they make it impossible to break the coverage. and when they jam, since nobody can get open it leaves you for that sack. 3) the LBs are soooo overated on that team, ands with that cheap blitz where everybody lines the LB up over the center thats causes problems too.

its the same thing everytime you play against the raiders, jam the WRs/TEs, blitz a CB and LBs...because they make the Defense to good and to fast. I mean, I usually beat the Raiders but it is by far the hardest team to play on the game IMO. Also, they make Jamarcus Russell way to good on this game. I mean, I have throws with Farve that go no where near my WRs but Russell is perfect every time I play them, never a bad throw

Same here I usually beat the Raiders, mostly real bad, even high ranked Raiders users, you seen 1 you've seen them all. But they are the hardest team to play because of all that nonsense and them being overrated in several positions. I guarantee if they lowered their BSH, PUR, and ACC they'd be like they really are. What's funny is...they usually split with the Chiefs every year, but if you play them with the Chiefs they have a superior speed advantage which is garbage.

In reality Chris Johnson gets burned deep, short, intermediate, he played good in 2008 when they cut DeAngelo Hall but this year he's been toast.

This year with Russell coming down and Gradkowski being average their offense is limited, so I can usually shut the offense down, then on their defense I attack Asomugha, but most cheesers put Asomugha at FS with Branch with Johnson and Rout on the outsides, or they'll play that cheesy Nickel 1-5-5 and use Mike Mitchell their hardest HIT Stick guy to roam.

I kill their nanos but I hate when in the open field all this speed catches players and saves some TD's.

I mix my coverages on Russell and put pressure on him, you can get some picks, especially on these snap and QB Sprint to the flat users.

I agree the linebackers on Oakland are really overrated. Kirk Morrison needs to be dropped by around 10 ovr points.

I don't know what you're complaining about personally. The Raiders are faster team than KC in real life, why should there speed be lowered? If anything people need to be higher. Michael Huff is still too slow so is Mike Mitchell and Hiram Euguene. We have all atheletes in the secondary and Thomas Howard is a 4.4 guy.

Chris Johnson wasn't horrible this year. He was top 10 in passes defended. He didn't play as good as he did in 2008, but he did about as well as a job you can do opposite of Asomugha without being an elite corner.

I don't play online much but those people who change the playbook and put people out of position are cheesers and you can't fault the real Raiders losers just because some pizza faced kid in his moms basement uses things like that.

the point about the raiders is that they literally NEVER get beat.....Yes they are a Ok pass defense in real life, but do they straight lock down people in real life....NO....

the worst part is when you get them in a coverage where you get past the CB the safety makes some crazy play from across the field.

Raiders suck!!! Quit whining!! Every 1st rd pick they select is a bust minus SBas and Asomougha

ps3.Mattwaukee wrote:the point about the raiders is that they literally NEVER get beat.....Yes they are a Ok pass defense in real life, but do they straight lock down people in real life....NO....

the worst part is when you get them in a coverage where you get past the CB the safety makes some crazy play from across the field.

That sounds like a developmental problem with EA not a ratings problem. It is tough to play against Oakland, but until they add more to the game and make ratings matter more there isn't anything to do about it.

cem_ea_id.dthomas58 wrote:Raiders suck!!! Quit whining!! Every 1st rd pick they select is a bust minus SBas and Asomougha

This is coming from somebody who likes KC.

Have fun with your one Lombardi... Almsot 40 years ago.

cem_ea_id.dthomas58 wrote:Raiders suck!!! Quit whining!! Every 1st rd pick they select is a bust minus SBas and Asomougha

yea thats all u can say really. i mean yea we do get bust picks but thats not our faults. and atleast we have players that fans no about. who do u have one hit wonder matt cassell. GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!