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cem_ea_id.BaldBeard wrote:Calgary Flames 6th season

Lancet 87* - Turris 93 - Iginla 89 (C)
Roenick 85* - Pollock 87* - Coronel 83*
Tophy 81* - Finley 83* - Bois 80*
Nystrom 80 - Brandon Sutter 82 - Moss 80

Phaneuf 90 - Bouwmeester 88 (A)
Regehr 89 (A) - Pitkanen 87*
Tommernes 86 - Bertilsson 85

Kiprusoff 83
Adams 84*

*=Drafted player, not necassarily by me. Roenick was just drafted by Minnesota as a Franchise player, and they offered him to me for a 25 year old go nowhere center. I would complain about the trade logic if it didn't benefit me so damn much.


That franchise player started out as an 85? Geeze...what is his potential?
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lol not sure how good my teams gonna be after I have to re-sign them in a month(game time) cause I'm about to go over the cap right now

Offense
Ovechkin(93) - Toews(89) - Ryan(87)
Versteeg(84) - Backstrom(89) - Kane(88 )
McGinn(83) - Kennedy(82) - Latendresse(82)
Brophey(76) - Davis(77) - Bickell(76)

Defense
Pietrangelo(84) - Regehr(89)
Seabrook(85) - Schenn(85)
Barker(84) - Stephenson(79)

Goalie
Mason(86)
Greiss(80)

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ps3.hockeey wrote:Chicago Blackhawks (Just finished 2nd year and won stanley cup twice simming 80% of games)
lol not sure how good my teams gonna be after I have to re-sign them in a month(game time) cause I'm about to go over the cap right now

Offense
Ovechkin(93) - Toews(89) - Ryan(87)
Versteeg(84) - Backstrom(89) - Kane(88 )
McGinn(83) - Kennedy(82) - Latendresse(82)
Brophey(76) - Davis(77) - Bickell(76)

Defense
Pietrangelo(84) - Regehr(89)
Seabrook(85) - Schenn(85)
Barker(84) - Stephenson(79)

Goalie
Mason(86)
Greiss(80)


I wouldn't recommend keeping Ovechkin. He takes up so much salary space, and you can get high-potential players up to the 90's pretty quickly. Try getting Turris, he's straight A's and starts out a 79 the first season. He's probably an 86 or so for you if it's your second season. If you can sign Turris long-term before he hits the mid-80's, early-90's you can get a hell of a deal.
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I wouldn't recommend keeping Ovechkin. He takes up so much salary space, and you can get high-potential players up to the 90's pretty quickly. Try getting Turris, he's straight A's and starts out a 79 the first season. He's probably an 86 or so for you if it's your second season. If you can sign Turris long-term before he hits the mid-80's, early-90's you can get a hell of a deal.


Where can I get Turris and what other players would be good? I'm thinking about getting a pretty good plyer with ood potential and a 1st round draft pick for him but my drafts are usually lik 73 overall at the highest with B- or C potential so yeah.

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ps3.VINCENTUPPERCUT wrote:
cem_ea_id.BaldBeard wrote:Calgary Flames 6th season

Lancet 87* - Turris 93 - Iginla 89 (C)
Roenick 85* - Pollock 87* - Coronel 83*
Tophy 81* - Finley 83* - Bois 80*
Nystrom 80 - Brandon Sutter 82 - Moss 80

Phaneuf 90 - Bouwmeester 88 (A)
Regehr 89 (A) - Pitkanen 87*
Tommernes 86 - Bertilsson 85

Kiprusoff 83
Adams 84*

*=Drafted player, not necassarily by me. Roenick was just drafted by Minnesota as a Franchise player, and they offered him to me for a 25 year old go nowhere center. I would complain about the trade logic if it didn't benefit me so damn much.


That franchise player started out as an 85? Geeze...what is his potential?


Going Offensive, Defensive, Athletic....A-, C, A-

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ps3.hockeey wrote:
I wouldn't recommend keeping Ovechkin. He takes up so much salary space, and you can get high-potential players up to the 90's pretty quickly. Try getting Turris, he's straight A's and starts out a 79 the first season. He's probably an 86 or so for you if it's your second season. If you can sign Turris long-term before he hits the mid-80's, early-90's you can get a hell of a deal.


Where can I get Turris and what other players would be good? I'm thinking about getting a pretty good plyer with ood potential and a 1st round draft pick for him but my drafts are usually lik 73 overall at the highest with B- or C potential so yeah.


Turris plays for the Phoenix Coyotes. Max Pacioretty of the Montreal Canadians develops well. Erik Johnson of the *. Louis Blues, Alex Pietrangelo also of *. Louis....uh, Zach Bogosian of Atlanta....

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cem_ea_id.BaldBeard wrote:Calgary Flames 6th season

Lancet 87* - Turris 93 - Iginla 89 (C)
Roenick 85* - Pollock 87* - Coronel 83*
Tophy 81* - Finley 83* - Bois 80*
Nystrom 80 - Brandon Sutter 82 - Moss 80

Phaneuf 90 - Bouwmeester 88 (A)
Regehr 89 (A) - Pitkanen 87*
Tommernes 86 - Bertilsson 85

Kiprusoff 83
Adams 84*

*=Drafted player, not necassarily by me. Roenick was just drafted by Minnesota as a Franchise player, and they offered him to me for a 25 year old go nowhere center. I would complain about the trade logic if it didn't benefit me so damn much.


I've run a couple GM's and started over. I knew Pollock would be a star...wish I could have drafted him but he was taken two slots before me in the draft. Damn.

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cem_ea_id.sfsteve wrote:I've run a couple GM's and started over. I knew Pollock would be a star...wish I could have drafted him but he was taken two slots before me in the draft. Damn.


From my experience, Ahonen and Svitov are very good late-draft picks. Ahonen is a D with something like all A- potential and a 75 ovr. Svitoz starts at ..72..74? and is a B, A, B.

Peterson is actually surprising, as well--he's generally a 2nd-4th. Obviously, there's always Obsuit :\

ps3.hockeey wrote:Where can I get Turris and what other players would be good? I'm thinking about getting a pretty good plyer with ood potential and a 1st round draft pick for him but my drafts are usually lik 73 overall at the highest with B- or C potential so yeah.


If you want a trick for drafting--so you don't get screwed over and you don't care too much for a straight-realism:

On draft day create a separate save file. Ok, now at the start of the draft--trade all of your high-valued players for 1st round draft picks (if you don't have enough high-valued players, go for late-1st rounders or a lot of 2nd-4th rounds). Once the draft begins, draft what players you want--or just go straight from the top 1-30 or w/e (especially if you do it multiple times).

After you get through all of the rounds, write down all the players and their potentials / ratings. If they're just plain unworthy, just write their name down and cross it out or something to save you the time of writing their OVR and POT; you don't want to forget that you drafted a bad player--so it's best that you write down even the non-essentials.

Rinse and repeat as many times as you want, until you find a good selection of players to choose from. Of course, come the time you want to draft for real, don't trade away all of your high-value players, heh.

Also, remember, if you have a top 3 pick, the game is faithful to the NHL draft and being #1 is a lottery among the top 3. #1 is like 66%, #2 is like 22%, and #3 is 12%. I think those are roughly the percent-chance you have of getting #1.
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I think the problem with the rookies is the whole potential system. Once you get outside of the first round you are lucky to find a player with potential any higher than a B-. Being a Red Wings fan I can't help but point to Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk, 7th and 6th round picks respectively, as the flaw in that system. The "star players", for the most part, are the ones who produce on the stats sheet. The busts are often the ones who either couldn't adjust to the pro game or didn't have the work ethic to make the adjustment.

I think changing the player development system to statistical based would improve the draft greatly. I would also incorporate a "work ethic" rating to replace the potential rating. Most ratings would progress based on the numbers the player can put up, but other stats such as skating, strength, and intangibles would improve faster with a greater work ethic.

Sleepers are the best part of every sport when it comes to drafting and the current system just does not allow for it. Makes me sad

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xbox.Double O Domwin wrote:I think the problem with the rookies is the whole potential system. Once you get outside of the first round you are lucky to find a player with potential any higher than a B-. Being a Red Wings fan I can't help but point to Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk, 7th and 6th round picks respectively, as the flaw in that system. The "star players", for the most part, are the ones who produce on the stats sheet. The busts are often the ones who either couldn't adjust to the pro game or didn't have the work ethic to make the adjustment.

I think changing the player development system to statistical based would improve the draft greatly. I would also incorporate a "work ethic" rating to replace the potential rating. Most ratings would progress based on the numbers the player can put up, but other stats such as skating, strength, and intangibles would improve faster with a greater work ethic.

Sleepers are the best part of every sport when it comes to drafting and the current system just does not allow for it. Makes me sad


There are sleepers in the draft if you look for them. That's the beauty of it - you won't know until you've drafted them and they've played a few season for you.
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i've gotten 6 seasons in and I have not had a player drafted after the 1st round ever get above an 82. I had found a guy (never got above a 75) in the 4th round who was 6'7" and had a 87 in deflections straight out of the draft. I was able to pot 32 goals with him from the 4th line his rookie year and win the calder. His overall went from a 71 to a 72 and his potential scores went from C, B-, C to C, C, C with a maxed assistant coach.

If a player performs that well he should improve accordingly. "Potential" is such an empty term and it should not decide what a player ultimately becomes (just like it doesn't in real life). His performance and work ethic should.

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Chicago Blackhawks (Just finished 2nd year and won stanley cup twice simming 80% of games)
lol not sure how good my teams gonna be after I have to re-sign them in a month(game time) cause I'm about to go over the cap right now

Offense
Ovechkin(93) - Toews(89) - Ryan(87)
Versteeg(84) - Backstrom(89) - Kane(89)
McGinn(83) - Kennedy(82) - Latendresse(82)
Brophey(76) - Davis(77) - Bickell(76)

Defense
Pietrangelo(84) - Regehr(89)
Seabrook(85) - Schenn(85)
Barker(84) - Stephenson(79)

Goalie
Mason(86)
Greiss(80)


Okay, so after some advice from other players, I traded Ovechkin. I couldn't get Turris but I got Leclaire instead who is 1 overall below, has abetter shot, and same potential. I traded Ovechkin and Cam Barker(3rd Liner I don't care about much) for Leclaire and some no name guy who had a high salary so that the team could afford the trade. I bought out the other guy and I wanted to know if I got ripped off for this trade because Montreal said they would accept it before I could change my mind. Should I trade Leclaire for Turris (Leclaire is 1 better with same potential so I'd probably have to offer another guy thats okay)? I guess I'll pick up another good D from the free agency to fill Barker's shoes. Leclaire is 86 Overall Sniper with A-, B, B- potential. I do have a lot more salary space though. Also what forward lines would be good for the players I have?

Offense
Leclaire(SNP)(86) - Toews(PLY)(89) - Ryan(PWF)(87)
McGinn(PLY)(83) - Backstrom(PLY)(89) - Kane(PLY)(88 )
Latrandresse(forget)(83) - Kennedy(GRN)(82) - Versteeg(PLY)(82)
Brophey(forget)(76) - Davis(GRN)(77) - Bickell(forget)(76)

Defense
Pietrangelo(84) - Regehr(89)
Seabrook(85) - Schenn(85)
Unfilled but will update when I get someone(??) - Stephenson(79)

Goalie
Mason(88 )
Greiss(80)

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I normally start with a lesser team like the thrashers but get bored half way through so i change to another.
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ps3.hockeey wrote:I guess I'll pick up another good D from the free agency to fill Barker's shoes.


For your 6th d-man, you don't need a really good one, search for a 6'3" d-man with good checking skills, don't really care about his overall, make him play on the 3rd pair and on the second PK unit and everything will be fine, if you can sign him for about 0,7m$ this would be perfect.

I will explain you how I always build my d, i'll start with at least 2 d-man with amazing slapshot, one shoot left and the other one right, power play specialist.

The next 2 will be have a good slapshot, a good size, and can play physically if it's possible one lefty and one righty, all around d-man. They will play on both unit, power play and penality kill.

The last 2, will be 2 huge guy, if they can have good block shot skill it will be a bonus, those 2 guys are use going to hit everybody who will try to go near your goalie's crease. Penalty kill specialist.

Healty scratch, I'll go with a huge guy who can easilly play on your last pair.

In case of an injury to one who play on the power play, if you have a good prospect, make him play on the PP and let him play on the number 3 or 4, prospect need to play if you want them to get better faster, if you don't have a good young guy, just take a look at your foward, there is always one of your guy can play at the point on PP.

I need everybody's support for this http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/339775.page
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Chicago Blackhawks

Stalberg - Toews - Kane
Tavares - Malkin - Ryan
Eberle - Kadri - Paajarvi-Svensson
Braathen - Lombardi - Menegatti

Ellis - Seabrook
McDonaugh - Keith
Gilroy - Hjalmarsson

Rinne
McEachern (drafted)

In my 5th season. Currently in the cup finals against the Islanders.

I have to resign Toews after this season, and I'll probably move Tavares and Ryan for picks at the draft.
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