BL33DINGST33L wrote:Wasn't talking about financing buddy. Racing with 3 or 4 people to you may seem fun, but others might want to race all 8. The lobbies were meant for 8 people, and if they can't be filled, this game doesn't need to exist. Your argument is just your opinion. Point. Period. The end.

Well, I don't know if you actually realised this yet buddy, but we are not living in a world where good vibes and cheerleadering control.
We live in a world where financial support is the main interest, that being said, I don't really think I have to continue to argue much further, Free players don't provide a financial support to the game. Point. Period. The End.

I can't get rid of the feeling, that players who regularly spend some boost in the game actually get more free stuff than players who actually play the game for free.

Then, the boost here is so expensive that I rather spend money on REAL things than just on a bunch of pixels or stuff that makes them faster or better looking. 62'500 Boost = 142 US-$ over here, just thanks to the additional boost, otherwise that's the price for 50'000... I mean you could buy at least 2 decent games for that much money even over here, not to think of other stuff you actually could get.

My car sometimes is faster, sometimes slower, that's a fact... A restart of the game lets the car always act normal again. So I don't think that has something to do with the connection, or gets the connection better again when I restart the game? Sync sometimes is killing my car, sometimes not. My internet speed doesn't change that much, I think...

It's nice the murcielago is an ingame-cash-car now... So free players are competitive again (unless they get matched with cheaters), at least if they reach lvl 50 and got a free slot in their garage. What means that it might take a while for free players to get a really decent car.

The game is not too bad for a free game (that's why I still play), but not good enough to spend a fortune on, what I'd have to do if I'd like to buy boost.

All I can say so far the "very generous" is actually not very accurate. They just give away enough to keep the game playable without spending boost, not much more. It even can be fun... But they should care a bit more about cheaters and get to realize that the sync in the game is as bad as players say.

DIAMONDDM13 wrote:

BL33DINGST33L wrote:Wasn't talking about financing buddy. Racing with 3 or 4 people to you may seem fun, but others might want to race all 8. The lobbies were meant for 8 people, and if they can't be filled, this game doesn't need to exist. Your argument is just your opinion. Point. Period. The end.

Well, I don't know if you actually realised this yet buddy, but we are not living in a world where good vibes and cheerleadering control.
We live in a world where financial support is the main interest, that being said, I don't really think I have to continue to argue much further, Free players don't provide a financial support to the game. Point. Period. The End.

But, if you go even deeper, we all had to be a free player at one point, and free players do contribute financially. How you may ask? They get word out about the game. They spread this game like wildfire, and the more there are, the more potential/actual customers there are. You don't always HAVE to buy something to contribute to a business's revenue.

Like any business, you have to have a base. This game's base is "play4free", and that is so free players come here, stay, maybe make a purchase, and tell their friends that they should also make a driver and play!

These free players that you despise so much are the gears in the clock. Without the gears, the clock doesn't work properly.

DIAMONDDM13 wrote:
You are not paying for the game, so why are you even complaining? Just think for a second... who would you ask for help in a court if you were to sue EA for not making a better game for you to play for free? Just think about this before you post anything else. Maybe now you can understand what I mean.
The truth is that you have noone to resort to. Unlike I, because I have transaction history in my accounts for the Boost I have bought, you have no legal document to present to show you are actually a customer and have the right to claim the product you were promissed.

I have a registered account with EA, I agreed to TOS, I was promised the product for 0 dollars. I got it and it's shi tty, why can't I complain? If you eat that free burger you were talking about and get some decease that puts you in the hospital for two years. Are you not entitled to sue the company for f.ucking up the product they offered to you? Just because justice system doesnt work in your country and that organization laughs at you doesn't mean they are right.
THIS GAME WAS MADE FREE TO PLAY IF YOU ARE RET.ARDED ENOUGH TO PAY TO LOSE TO CHEATERS ITS YOUr PROBLEM, FREE PLAYERS HAVE AS MANY RIGHTS TO COMPLAIN AS BOOST PLAYERS.

BL33DINGST33L wrote:

IIINSANE wrote:Arguing is pointless so once again:
OK ones again:
THIS GAME ISN'T A GIFT TO POOR PEOPLE. It is made to be free2play. free2play is not the same as pay2haveachance2win...

You may say, "oh this is a business more money=better" and you would be right as long as you are talking about life.
YOU ARE WRONG
This is a game, A GAME.
IMAGINE me and you playing chess online. But to have queen you need to pay 5 dollars... is it a fair competition?
If you answer YES, you are a RET.ARD
If you think it's ok to give paying customers advantage in performance you are a (above in orange)
If you think it's ok to take away fairness from a game, and give it back little by little through codes, and one igc car per month and expect people to be thankful you are a (above in orange).

If you think that its ok to have boost cars like c10, mk1, mr2 own modern day cars made for racing like mitsubishi evo,350z, gallarado, audi r8, etc YOU ARE A DUM B F UCKING (up there in orange)

Thank you.

I like your outlook on it. +1

This is the only game I've ever played where the more you buy, the more advantage you have. No one should have any advantage over other people. The only advantage should be your own skills.

You know what? I quit, there is no hope of getting it through your heads.
You people are exactly the kind of people I would never hire to my company, you seem to forget that even though this is a Play4Free game, it is a game that, just like all other games, is meant to make money.
I will leave you with this last question to think about.
If Boost items (Cars and all other stuff) were not better and exclusive, how would this game make as much money as it makes?
If you could get all the best stuff for free, only a small group of lazy people would buy anything, everyone else would just get it for free.

DIAMONDDM13 wrote:

BL33DINGST33L wrote:

IIINSANE wrote:Arguing is pointless so once again:
OK ones again:
THIS GAME ISN'T A GIFT TO POOR PEOPLE. It is made to be free2play. free2play is not the same as pay2haveachance2win...

You may say, "oh this is a business more money=better" and you would be right as long as you are talking about life.
YOU ARE WRONG
This is a game, A GAME.
IMAGINE me and you playing chess online. But to have queen you need to pay 5 dollars... is it a fair competition?
If you answer YES, you are a RET.ARD
If you think it's ok to give paying customers advantage in performance you are a (above in orange)
If you think it's ok to take away fairness from a game, and give it back little by little through codes, and one igc car per month and expect people to be thankful you are a (above in orange).

If you think that its ok to have boost cars like c10, mk1, mr2 own modern day cars made for racing like mitsubishi evo,350z, gallarado, audi r8, etc YOU ARE A DUM B F UCKING (up there in orange)

Thank you.

I like your outlook on it. +1

This is the only game I've ever played where the more you buy, the more advantage you have. No one should have any advantage over other people. The only advantage should be your own skills.

You know what? I quit, there is no hope of getting it through your heads.
You people are exactly the kind of people I would never hire to my company, you seem to forget that even though this is a Play4Free game, it is a game that, just like all other games, is meant to make money.
I will leave you with this last question to think about.
If Boost items (Cars and all other stuff) were not better and exclusive, how would this game make as much money as it makes?
If you could get all the best stuff for free, only a small group of lazy people would buy anything, everyone else would just get it for free.

Go play any other free online game. Go play AVA for christsakes if you're into FPS's. Everything takes forever to earn cash for, it's hard to earn the cash to begin with, and the guns that are exclusive aren't any better, they just look cooler and are more sought after. You're rewarded more for sticking out the grueling leveling up process that takes flippin forever, because you have access to guns that take more skill to use, but reward you more if you use them right.

They have the concept right. EA/BB does not.

DIAMONDDM13 wrote:You know what? I quit, there is no hope of getting it through your heads.
You people are exactly the kind of people I would never hire to my company, you seem to forget that even though this is a Play4Free game, it is a game that, just like all other games, is meant to make money.
I will leave you with this last question to think about.
If Boost items (Cars and all other stuff) were not better and exclusive, how would this game make as much money as it makes?
If you could get all the best stuff for free, only a small group of lazy people would buy anything, everyone else would just get it for free.

There is no need for boost only cars I think... They would make enough money with giving away special editions with custom vinyls and styling like the beauty, beast etc. for boost and some additional optical tuning like the items in the visual packs. Don't tell me that no one would buy those things or not enough people woulld do that.

IIINSANE wrote:I have a registered account with EA, I agreed to TOS, I was promised the product for 0 dollars. I got it and it's shi tty, why can't I complain? If you eat that free burger you were talking about and get some decease that puts you in the hospital for two years. Are you not entitled to sue the company for f.ucking up the product they offered to you? Just because justice system doesnt work in your country and that organization laughs at you doesn't mean they are right.
THIS GAME WAS MADE FREE TO PLAY IF YOU ARE RET.ARDED ENOUGH TO PAY TO LOSE TO CHEATERS ITS YOUr PROBLEM, FREE PLAYERS HAVE AS MANY RIGHTS TO COMPLAIN AS BOOST PLAYERS.

You can't complain. It was your choice to eat it. They could give a poisonous burger to kill you. True, they had legal issues to deal with. But if you get something free, unless that item harms your health, there is no other complain you can make. Even if it harms your health its not a complain.
But FOR THE LAST TIME, THIS GAME IS PLAY 4 FREE, and you are playing for free. If I pay to buy stuf I want I'm becoming a customer and in that act, I become entitled to the right to complain about the product I am buying. PERIOD. If you don't understand this, go take a degree in law and once you end it, then you will see what a waste of time you are making.
And last, you didn't buy this game and nowhere does it say this game runes perfectly. It's like if you downloaded an underground game. Are you going to make a legal complain for an undergound game? I don't really think so. True, NFSW is not underground, but it's still in development, and you sir are not even contributing to that development so just take what you have offered, if you don't like it:
http://www.google.pt
and search for other game.
Now I'm really done. If you people refuse to understand how this world works, to understand that you are not customers and therefore not entitled to make complain for a product you didn't purshase, and you don't even study law to know this, there is nothing else to discuss here, just keep screaming untill you can't scream no more and give up.

DIAMONDDM13 wrote:
You know what? I quit, there is no hope of getting it through your heads.
You people are exactly the kind of people I would never hire to my company, you seem to forget that even though this is a Play4Free game, it is a game that, just like all other games, is meant to make money.
I will leave you with this last question to think about.
If Boost items (Cars and all other stuff) were not better and exclusive, how would this game make as much money as it makes?
If you could get all the best stuff for free, only a small group of lazy people would buy anything, everyone else would just get it for free.

DUM,BAS.S ....
DO you enjoy racing ur gt3rs vs ford gt?
I ma sure most people don't want everything for free, just few igc cars that don't suck, just a drop rate that gives a little more than 2 parts a week ... You can buy ur exclusive ccx for 25k boost,rare oldschool beautiful cars, cars with awesome vinyls ur beautiful rims bodykits neons and other bullsh it... that is exclusive(variety, visual, save a lot of time)
Exclusive performance is a *.ing joke. What is a racing game? It is cometition. If you take away competition, it is no longer racing, its a "try to finish at least 60 seconds after MR2" game.

I honestly don't think this game was made to make money, I think it was made to get people interested in EA products ...

BL33DINGST33L wrote:Go play any other free online game. Go play AVA for christsakes if you're into FPS's. Everything takes forever to earn cash for, it's hard to earn the cash to begin with, and the guns that are exclusive aren't any better, they just look cooler and are more sought after. You're rewarded more for sticking out the grueling leveling up process that takes flippin forever, because you have access to guns that take more skill to use, but reward you more if you use them right.

They have the concept right. EA/BB does not.

Nah, don't like FPS.
And here is the big question. Who makes more money? EA.

And to the post below this, no, they would never get as much money. People prefer to get IGC version of the car. That wouldn't work.

IIINSANE wrote:DUM,BAS.S ....
DO you enjoy racing ur gt3rs vs ford gt?
I ma sure most people don't want everything for free, just few igc cars that don't suck, just a drop rate that gives a little more than 2 parts a week ... You can buy ur exclusive ccx for 25k boost,rare oldschool beautiful cars, cars with awesome vinyls ur beautiful rims bodykits neons and other bullsh it... that is exclusive(variety, visual, save a lot of time)
Exclusive performance is a *.ing joke. What is a racing game? It is cometition. If you take away competition, it is no longer racing, its a "try to finish at least 60 seconds after MR2" game.

I honestly don't think this game was made to make money, I think it was made to get people interested in EA products ...

Actually, I only raced with my GT3 a few times. Too many people use it. I like using different cars.
And last time, if boost cars don't give better and exclusive (better performance too), people have no interest in buying it.
And come on, really? Do you really think this game is not meant to make money. You really are a ... [insert first word in your post]

DIAMONDDM13 wrote:And to the post below this, no, they would never get as much money. People prefer to get IGC version of the car. That wouldn't work.

That's what you sayin'... I've seen plenty of "beauties" and "beasts" already... Also tons of cars with card-pack-styling... It's just pathetic to say that they won't earn enough just with those things. There are always people who are willing to stand out of the crowd with unique looking cars. Usually those or the styling costs boost, so ea will get some money and it sure would be enough.

DIAMONDDM13 wrote:

BL33DINGST33L wrote:Go play any other free online game. Go play AVA for christsakes if you're into FPS's. Everything takes forever to earn cash for, it's hard to earn the cash to begin with, and the guns that are exclusive aren't any better, they just look cooler and are more sought after. You're rewarded more for sticking out the grueling leveling up process that takes flippin forever, because you have access to guns that take more skill to use, but reward you more if you use them right.

They have the concept right. EA/BB does not.

Nah, don't like FPS.
And here is the big question. Who makes more money? EA.

And to the post below this, no, they would never get as much money. People prefer to get IGC version of the car. That wouldn't work.

EA makes more money because they've been around longer and have more games under their belt. People know them, and they get advertised more. You're mistaking how they make their money when the concept is that you make more money by putting yourself out more. If this game didn't have the name "Need for Speed" in it, it would of failed a long damn time ago. THAT is why they make more money. All because of a name that is and has been known by just about everyone.

On the other hand, the developers of AVA have a better image and 99% of their customers are happy. Can we say that here? ...Exactly.

LORDMYSTERY wrote:That's what you sayin'... I've seen plenty of "beauties" and "beasts" already... Also tons of cars with card-pack-styling... It's just pathetic to say that they won't earn enough just with those things. There are always people who are willing to stand out of the crowd with unique looking cars. Usually those or the styling costs boost, so ea will get some money and it sure would be enough.

Yeah, true, they would get SOME money, but were are not talking about some. EA is making TONS of money because of the exclusive Boost cars. That is a huge difference.

BL33DINGST33L wrote:EA makes more money because they've been around longer and have more games under their belt. People know them, and they get advertised more. You're mistaking how they make their money when the concept is that you make more money by putting yourself out more. If this game didn't have the name "Need for Speed" in it, it would of failed a long damn time ago. THAT is why they make more money. All because of a name that is and has been known by just about everyone.

On the other hand, the developers of AVA have a better image and 99% of their customers are happy. Can we say that here? ...Exactly.

That is all nice and pretty, but just like you said, EA makes more money. I wonder when will people understand this is the main thing here...