ps3.Playakev21 wrote:

cem_ea_id.Pantherbeast wrote:"Cough BS "Cough" People does this sound familiar from last year madden09. "Cough" Madden IQ Test "Cough". Madden IQ test was a bust last year. They may not put madden IQ test back in madden 10. But they are using the same settings from the test. Madden IQ test allow the computer/AI to adjust to your gameplay during the game and adjust and turn the linebackers and cornerbacks into superman to INT you passes on a regular bases. Ian I think ya'll are doing a good job on the game so far. But if you are going to use this same concept of AI that was used in madden 09 with madden IQ test. You better make it were we ain't getting pic off every offensive drive. I would understand the AI knocking the ball down more. But alot of INT by the AI is not real football. So please why ya'll are testing all of it. Make sure the AI ain't taking advangte of the upgraded boost for figuring out where the ball is going. It's already hard enough knowing the AI already knows every play and route in the game already because its preprogramed into the game already. I don't mind the new upgrade and not having be able to score 100 points in a game. That has kind of got boring over the years. But I weather score the 100 points per games if that means the AI ain't been superman on defense and INT me everytime I get on offense. So I hope ya'll do a good job on that. Because madden IQ test last year failed and most people hated as did I.

what are you talking about??? this is to stop cheesers who use money plays all games. This is completely different from IQ, IQ was to test how good you were during the madden test and would set a difficulty rating depending on how good you did on the test. This adaptive AI makes the AI addapt to what your opponent is doing for example if i keep using drag routes with a deep post all of a sudden my defense is gonna get super awareness ratings because now they know what you run and your gonna begin to throw interceptions. Before you decide to open your mouth know what your talking about first. Ian keep up the good work this is MUCH needed in madden ive been waiting for this for YEARSSSSS

now all im waiting for is different running styles for example you see how nbalive devs are trying to have different shooting arcs and shooting styles madden should have different running styles to match the players...I KNOW this wont be done in time for madden10 but you guys should DEFINITELY look in to this for madden11

ps3.Playakev21 wrote:
now all im waiting for is different running styles for example you see how nbalive devs are trying to have different shooting arcs and shooting styles madden should have different running styles to match the players...I KNOW this wont be done in time for madden10 but you guys should DEFINITELY look in to this for madden11

to a certain extent they have this already, but in a very generic way. Try running with Marion Barber and Willie Parker. Then try doing the same thing with Brian Westbrook. The first two guys play very differently than Westy. They just do. Now I know what you mean, cause they could definitely add more unique running styles, but I think they have addressed this to a certain degree already.

ps3.djKianoosh wrote:

ps3.Playakev21 wrote:
now all im waiting for is different running styles for example you see how nbalive devs are trying to have different shooting arcs and shooting styles madden should have different running styles to match the players...I KNOW this wont be done in time for madden10 but you guys should DEFINITELY look in to this for madden11

to a certain extent they have this already, but in a very generic way. Try running with Marion Barber and Willie Parker. Then try doing the same thing with Brian Westbrook. The first two guys play very differently than Westy. They just do. Now I know what you mean, cause they could definitely add more unique running styles, but I think they have addressed this to a certain degree already.

NO they haven't, i understand what you mean that they feel differently, but i mean madden09 is twitchy ANYONE can run somebody over! in real life darren sproles does NOT lower his shoulder BUT, jamal lewis does. this is what i mean by different running styles look at this for a second.

madden10 is attempting to incorporate different running styles which i applaud them for but look at basketball not everybody shoots the same, baseball not everyone pitches the same both of those are incorporated in games and in football not every running back has the same style so why cant that be incorporated in our game of choice which is madden????

but yea look at the video towards the end it'll show you nfl2k8 and how emmit smith runs so differently from barry sanders, shoot ull even see grass being kicked up and the field being destroyed but yea press the HQ button on the youtube video it'll make the video more clearer but yea enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js1XReX83f4

ps3.Playakev21 wrote:

ps3.djKianoosh wrote:

ps3.Playakev21 wrote:
now all im waiting for is different running styles for example you see how nbalive devs are trying to have different shooting arcs and shooting styles madden should have different running styles to match the players...I KNOW this wont be done in time for madden10 but you guys should DEFINITELY look in to this for madden11

to a certain extent they have this already, but in a very generic way. Try running with Marion Barber and Willie Parker. Then try doing the same thing with Brian Westbrook. The first two guys play very differently than Westy. They just do. Now I know what you mean, cause they could definitely add more unique running styles, but I think they have addressed this to a certain degree already.

NO they haven't, i understand what you mean that they feel differently, but i mean madden09 is twitchy ANYONE can run somebody over! in real life darren sproles does NOT lower his shoulder BUT, jamal lewis does. this is what i mean by different running styles look at this for a second.

madden10 is attempting to incorporate different running styles which i applaud them for but look at basketball not everybody shoots the same, baseball not everyone pitches the same both of those are incorporated in games and in football not every running back has the same style so why cant that be incorporated in our game of choice which is madden????

but yea look at the video towards the end it'll show you nfl2k8 and how emmit smith runs so differently from barry sanders, shoot ull even see grass being kicked up and the field being destroyed but yea press the HQ button on the youtube video it'll make the video more clearer but yea enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js1XReX83f4

look at 3:15 where barry sanders the video game one does the real barry standers stutter choppy steps and look at 1:55 emitt smith moves looks and actually feels like a real running back sliding all over the place anyone who plays football knows your not that quick/fast/agile with pads on you cant just cut on a dime like that at the running back position anyone who can cut on a dime like that is a special hall of fame type of player/ aka like barry sanders but yea i just want madden to simulate FOOTBALL i know its not possible in 1 year but i just wanted to throw out an idea for madden2011

ps3.djKianoosh wrote:

ps3.Playakev21 wrote:
now all im waiting for is different running styles for example you see how nbalive devs are trying to have different shooting arcs and shooting styles madden should have different running styles to match the players...I KNOW this wont be done in time for madden10 but you guys should DEFINITELY look in to this for madden11

to a certain extent they have this already, but in a very generic way. Try running with Marion Barber and Willie Parker. Then try doing the same thing with Brian Westbrook. The first two guys play very differently than Westy. They just do. Now I know what you mean, cause they could definitely add more unique running styles, but I think they have addressed this to a certain degree already.

marion barber trucks people willie parker and westbrook do not to the extent that barber does madden should portray this when someone gets trucked it is usually a HIGHLIGHT for weeks but in madden ANYONE can truck someone no matter how big or small you are and no matter how bad your ratings are look at this other video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnjvOaN-lKA

lol.. funny videos.. you should be a tester for madden.

ps3.Playakev21 wrote:
but yea look at the video towards the end it'll show you nfl2k8 and how emmit smith runs so differently from barry sanders, shoot ull even see grass being kicked up and the field being destroyed but yea press the HQ button on the youtube video it'll make the video more clearer but yea enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js1XReX83f4

I played and enjoyed APF2K8 as much as the next guy, but while those animations LOOK good, they felt like crap. Often times in the 2K games, you get locked into animations and I felt that I never had full control of my player. You had to hit the juke button well in advance in order for it to be effective and even running in straight lines took a little effort.

cem_ea_id.Pantherbeast wrote:"Cough BS "Cough" People does this sound familiar from last year madden09. "Cough" Madden IQ Test "Cough". Madden IQ test was a bust last year. They may not put madden IQ test back in madden 10. But they are using the same settings from the test. Madden IQ test allow the computer/AI to adjust to your gameplay during the game and adjust and turn the linebackers and cornerbacks into superman to INT you passes on a regular bases. Ian I think ya'll are doing a good job on the game so far. But if you are going to use this same concept of AI that was used in madden 09 with madden IQ test. You better make it were we ain't getting pic off every offensive drive. I would understand the AI knocking the ball down more. But alot of INT by the AI is not real football. So please why ya'll are testing all of it. Make sure the AI ain't taking advangte of the upgraded boost for figuring out where the ball is going. It's already hard enough knowing the AI already knows every play and route in the game already because its preprogramed into the game already. I don't mind the new upgrade and not having be able to score 100 points in a game. That has kind of got boring over the years. But I weather score the 100 points per games if that means the AI ain't been superman on defense and INT me everytime I get on offense. So I hope ya'll do a good job on that. Because madden IQ test last year failed and most people hated as did I.

This seems like the same idea with a completely different application. It's actually boosting the position specific ratings and having the CPU adjust by experimenting with logical hot routes and line adjustments. rather than turning them all into superman and staying with the base play. Which really didn't work that well if you know how to rocket and operate the full house.

ps3.djKianoosh wrote:lol.. funny videos.. you should be a tester for madden.

Those aren't my videos those are other peoples videos. Just tryna make madden better but its hard to do that with EA fan boys eating anything madden throws out there way. Ea has more money than 2k, they should be able to take that idea and run with it and make it better, MADDEN has been in business for over 20 plus year 2k was only in business for 5 years. If 2k was still in business WOW im telling you EA would be in trouble, thats why they kicked ortiz out ian cummings is tryna fix ortiz mishaps!

I'd like to hear EA tell us their "My Skill" feature was garbage and they're scrapping that idea and working on something entirely different. I could care less that the AI adjusts in online play/head to head matches if it doesn't have anything to do with franchise mode.

As for their trying to cater to the people that cheese their way to blowout scores on a consistent basis (and get bored?) and make things harder for them, who the hell cares? They're cheesers! They're going to find a way to do it on Madden 10 as well because they simply do not like to play realistic football. They'd rather milk the easy score and convince themselves that they're great Madden players than lose a game here and there. NO cheeser likes to lose. That's why there are so many "disconnects" online. They'd rather have a high DNF percentage and say "my cable went out on me" than have a loss on their record.

Let's focus on the AI apart from head to head gaming, EA. Make the game more enjoyable for the people that love to play the game itself and want to see a realistic outcome when playing a franchise as the Lions. Nobody should be able to go 16-0 with the Lions when they start their franchise.

I've got a franchise going as the Raiders and I've only lost about 10 games in 5 seasons including post seasons. I don't cheese. I'm about 8th in the league at scoring so I don't rack up the points so I can win. I kick field goals and punt on 4th downs.

Speaking of AI, why is it that when I set the game to play 5 minute quarters the computer players have nearly double my snaps. Do they run no huddles all game every game cuz the computer stats are absurd in comparison to player stats.

I like what I have seen so far. There are a few things I hope they bring back in madden 10 that have been missing since they moved to the xbox 360 ans ps3. I would like to see them bring back some features in the franchies. The training camp mode made player develepment alot better than the player training. Also having the player progresstion every four weeks also helped players develope better. Another idea i had was to include the features of nfl head coach into the game. Since the head coach and cordinaters all make out players better why shouldn't there be a full staff of position coaches. The can each add attributes to the players just like the currant staff does it is just more indepth.

I put my views up on the subject of Adaptive AI. While the thread got a little off topic there for a while I saw some good responses. I really think this is one of the best features that could go in any sports game. As I mention in my blog post I would love to see this expanded to the offensive side of the ball especially the Offensive Line.

xbox.MPDamon wrote:I put my views up on the subject of Adaptive AI. While the thread got a little off topic there for a while I saw some good responses. I really think this is one of the best features that could go in any sports game. As I mention in my blog post I would love to see this expanded to the offensive side of the ball especially the Offensive Line.

EXACTLYYYYYYYYYY i love this new feature i would hope this would go to offensive line too so they can read nano blitzes that people cheese with all day

This is a nice feature to introduce, yet my only concern would be that it wouldn't matter who you face. Now, as long as ratings still effect the game play we're good. But, if I'm playing against the Detroit Lion's defense and all of a sudden I'm being man handled like they were the Steelers than we've got problems. EA, your gonna need to be sure to regulate the number of picks/fumbles while implanting this feature. I think since you've already covered the fact there will be sliders to dictate how this happens, than we should be fine... Keep up the blogs and all the good work...Now, just do one on the Presentation.

hey this does sound cool but please give only a thirty or 25 second play clock for online games please .and what about online leagues like ncaa so u can play a complete scedule intead of user teams only make it season or something