yep

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-Motion-Plus-Virtua-Tennis-09-Trailer-17596.html

also, with two weeks til release I guarantee there r no more surprises for GS.
What we see is what we r getting, a LAME career mode with only 4 tourneys and a bunch of challenges in between.
happy happy joy joy.
How old will this career mode get? and fast!
In VT's career mode, its monstrous, from what all the previewers have stated.
You build up to facing the better names in the game thru season mode.

GS will get boring FAST.

also look at the better camera angles and animations in the VT09 vids as compared to GS
You guys would be lying if u said GS was better.
really look at the vids.
I havent noticed any different speed shots in GS


if you guys think there r more features u are in for a rude awakening.
get back to me on june 8th and tell me but all those NEW features you heard bout from now til then.


yes, i will stop people from buying it, its fair.
why should i let someone spend their hard earned money on the lesser or two games?
just so poor ea and rake in more money?
EA is the king of ignoring fans requests.
I wont help line their pockets.
I have more concern for the gamer, who doenst have 100 bucks to spend and wants one tennis game.

have you actually seen any real gamplay footage of vt 2009 it looks EXACTLY the same as the previous versions so if u wanna spend £30 on the same game as last time be my guest but were on these forums discussing GST WII version yep and your comparing the wii version to vt's ps3 version. I have no doubt GST PS3/360 will be a lot better than vt.

I'm not as concerned about the career mode as I am the gameplay. VT3 is the same as all the other tennis games sega makes. I don't care if the career mode is the best of any tennis game, your still playing the same game. Pushing people to VT09 when they can get VT3 for probably 10 bucks. Why? But, like you said, you work at gamestop, cheating the public is nothing new right?

cem_ea_id.tommyfusco wrote:http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-Motion-Plus-Virtua-Tennis-09-Trailer-17596.html

also, with two weeks til release I guarantee there r no more surprises for GS.
What we see is what we r getting, a LAME career mode with only 4 tourneys and a bunch of challenges in between.
happy happy joy joy.
How old will this career mode get? and fast!
In VT's career mode, its monstrous, from what all the previewers have stated.
You build up to facing the better names in the game thru season mode.

GS will get boring FAST.

also look at the better camera angles and animations in the VT09 vids as compared to GS
You guys would be lying if u said GS was better.
really look at the vids.
I havent noticed any different speed shots in GS


if you guys think there r more features u are in for a rude awakening.
get back to me on june 8th and tell me but all those NEW features you heard bout from now til then.


yes, i will stop people from buying it, its fair.
why should i let someone spend their hard earned money on the lesser or two games?
just so poor ea and rake in more money?
EA is the king of ignoring fans requests.
I wont help line their pockets.
I have more concern for the gamer, who doenst have 100 bucks to spend and wants one tennis game.

I have a crazy idea....

Why don't we wait until they are released and we know how good or bad each play (online and single player). Then, only then, will we make a decision on what game is better and what game we should "allow people to buy".

I don't necessarily disagree with all you have said, but you are sounding biased against EA. They can make some bad games, but they've made some good ones too. At least wait and see...

Anonymous wrote:

cem_ea_id.tommyfusco wrote:http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Wii-Motion-Plus-Virtua-Tennis-09-Trailer-17596.html

also, with two weeks til release I guarantee there r no more surprises for GS.
What we see is what we r getting, a LAME career mode with only 4 tourneys and a bunch of challenges in between.
happy happy joy joy.
How old will this career mode get? and fast!
In VT's career mode, its monstrous, from what all the previewers have stated.
You build up to facing the better names in the game thru season mode.

GS will get boring FAST.

also look at the better camera angles and animations in the VT09 vids as compared to GS
You guys would be lying if u said GS was better.
really look at the vids.
I havent noticed any different speed shots in GS


if you guys think there r more features u are in for a rude awakening.
get back to me on june 8th and tell me but all those NEW features you heard bout from now til then.


yes, i will stop people from buying it, its fair.
why should i let someone spend their hard earned money on the lesser or two games?
just so poor ea and rake in more money?
EA is the king of ignoring fans requests.
I wont help line their pockets.
I have more concern for the gamer, who doenst have 100 bucks to spend and wants one tennis game.

I have a crazy idea....

Why don't we wait until they are released and we know how good or bad each play (online and single player). Then, only then, will we make a decision on what game is better and what game we should "allow people to buy".

I don't necessarily disagree with all you have said, but you are sounding biased against EA. They can make some bad games, but they've made some good ones too. At least wait and see...

fair enough. I agree.

heres some choice nuggets about VT09 that makes me want it

hat said, Sega promises that the World Tour will offer 46 hours of gameplay, with 1,500 items to buy in the store as you progress. The developers are also saying that they've paid much more attention to the game's audio, with different crowd noises to reflect the change in atmosphere between amateur and professional matches. The development team cites the Nadal-Federer Wimbledon 2008 final as an example of how they've been influenced in re-creating the atmosphere of a grand slam match.


Sega also wants to emphasise the realistic elements of the game this year, which means that you'll have to really fight for the chance to play someone like Roger Federer, in contrast to last year's game.


In the end it might just come down to the buttons. The EA game uses A and B to modify your swings into lobs and drop shots. This, reckons SEGA, is weak. "To do a lob, you just... do a lob," says my coach, as he generously allows me to be the first journalist to try the game's MotionPlus controls.

That means all versions get the massively overhauled World Tour mode that's been integrated with ranked player matches and tournaments, allowing you to earn prize money and improve the ranking of your custom player online or offline. There's a much-improved character editor (the results of which can be undone by buying cosmetic surgery, for a price); and a new amateur tour populated with no-name characters to work your way through before you get a shot at the big names. The arcane unlocking system has been stripped out and replaced with a store bulging with clothes and accessories both realistic and outlandish.

I'd go for GST if only to avoid seeing Nadal in sleeveless.

My only concern with Virtua Tennis is that you apparently must recalibrate MotionPlus after every point by pointing with the Remote at or near your controlled player.

I could see this as a potential distraction, especially if you are playing against another human player who also has to recalibrate after every point.

See http://www.cubed3.com/preview/283/
"Before each point you must aim at your avatar to give Motion Plus an opportunity to reset itself. Sumo tested doing this behind the scenes but ultimately opted to have it obvious and on the surface; it can slow things down a bit, but Sumo figures that at least this way the remote is getting reset properly, isn't losing accuracy and isn't 'tricking' player into thinking they're playing differently."

With Grand Slam Tennis, on the other hand, according to http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/impressionsArt.cfm?artid=18275, "...calibrates the peripheral during load times, setting itself seamlessly before and after matches. Outside of the loading screens it also mentions that it's calibrating the peripheral, but the calibration process is transparent and happens in the background."

this is a huge thing that EA i hope can combat, but with 2 weeks to go, looks grim


GS AU: What new features and gameplay modes will be available?

TA: Virtua Tennis 2009 features a completely revamped World Tour made up of Amateur and Pro Tours, an all-new character creator, 500 custom-created opponents, and over 1,500 player items. We are also very proud to have the licensed Davis and Fed Cups, which the player can enter as any one of over 200 different nations. Virtua Tennis 2009 also sees the return of some fan favourite minigames and the arrival of some completely new games involving crocodiles, pirates, zoo animals, and more.


500 opponents!!??

The problem with Virtua Tennis is that the tennis isn't very fun. Hard getting around that. The gameplay is utterly unimpressive.

You say GST will get boring "fast," except people are still loving Wii Tennis, and that came couldn't be more simple and bare. Even if GST were a slightly better version of Wii Tennis, we know people would love it and play it a lot. Now it's obvious that GST is far more than a 'new Wii Tennis'.

Also, GST has actual grand slam tournaments. That's cool. I want to be able to re-enact the 1980 Wimbledon final. I can't do that with VT. I also far prefer the roster of GST. I can play with Borg and McEnroe. A lot of people are going to like that. You seem really interesting in a "tennis season" but ultimately most people are wanting something they can pick up and play. Even VT's extensive career mode, the tournaments are fake right? Ultimately it just seems unauthentic.

The controls will also be better in GST. The racquet movements will be more precise.

Ultimately one game will be more fun than the other. You can throw me a thousand different shirts and a thousand no name players at a whole season of no-name tournaments but it comes down to one thing: is the game fun to play?

cem_ea_id.holloway1229 wrote:The problem with Virtua Tennis is that the tennis isn't very fun. Hard getting around that. The gameplay is utterly unimpressive.

You say GST will get boring "fast," except people are still loving Wii Tennis, and that came couldn't be more simple and bare. Even if GST were a slightly better version of Wii Tennis, we know people would love it and play it a lot. Now it's obvious that GST is far more than a 'new Wii Tennis'.

Also, GST has actual grand slam tournaments. That's cool. I want to be able to re-enact the 1980 Wimbledon final. I can't do that with VT. I also far prefer the roster of GST. I can play with Borg and McEnroe. A lot of people are going to like that. You seem really interesting in a "tennis season" but ultimately most people are wanting something they can pick up and play. Even VT's extensive career mode, the tournaments are fake right? Ultimately it just seems unauthentic.

The controls will also be better in GST. The racquet movements will be more precise.

Ultimately one game will be more fun than the other. You can throw me a thousand different shirts and a thousand no name players at a whole season of no-name tournaments but it comes down to one thing: is the game fun to play?

great post.

as far as the wii tennis part.
that game is barebones to begin with, so u arent expecting much if anything. its BEYOND barebones.
but when u create a licensed tennis game with career and all that, they expect a bit more than just the bare minimum u can do to get by without calling it a glorified exhibition mode.

yes, i am a big season mode guy.
the fake part is actually cool to me.
it opens up the ability to add more to the mode.

but, fun, yes, thats will be the key Holloway.
2weeks.

xbox.grimmbomb21 wrote:I'm not as concerned about the career mode as I am the gameplay. VT3 is the same as all the other tennis games sega makes. I don't care if the career mode is the best of any tennis game, your still playing the same game. Pushing people to VT09 when they can get VT3 for probably 10 bucks. Why? But, like you said, you work at gamestop, cheating the public is nothing new right?

Most games do it,especially sports/racing games....and with a better and bigger roster,improved graphics and realism and slight tweaks to the gameplay(slowed down gameplay,new camera angles and stumbling versus diving).......why not??? I mean this is a SEQUEL not new game. Look at the backlash Top Spin recieved for coming out with what was essentially an entirely new game in Top Spin 3........

Oh and as for the courts,im pretty sure the team confirmed that we only have the four slams with 3 courts each from each venue

Oh and as for the courts,im pretty sure the team confirmed that we only have the four slams with 3 courts each from each venue

wow, just wow.

Well, one preview said that VT09 was more like VT 3.5 than a true sequel. But as holloway said in his post, many of us find the roster for GST much better, and the ability to relive classic matches at the slams is too sweet to pass up. But, this is a pointless discussion until we have all played the games anyway.

I do like the sound of VT's career mode. But ultimately, online play will be a deciding factor for me. Which has the least lag, best matchmaking, tourney's and more.