xbox.ImpulS v47 wrote:@HerOicPlane: I dont know how old you are and i dont know if actually served in a army, but i have already.
Prone is pretty much the biggest stance in a fire fight... so i actually feel like a handicaped r€*, whos have to take a "death" because he was unable to go prone.

For example: What will you do, if a lmg-wh@re trys to spam you to "death" with his whole drummag and all cover is already blowned up? Or a Sniper camps you, and all what you got is a tiny rock, who gives good cover, but just if you go prone?

Prone is necessary in bfbc2, especially since you can destroy pretty much everthing.

but hey... me and buds will stick with opfdr (if dice dont get their heads out of somebodys a$$)

PS: and a battlefield without prone, isnt a batllefield at all.

edit: why the hell get words like retar. and who.. censored?

I'm not trying to say I want in there because if it was I'd be all up for it. I just didn't see why it was such a big deal to have it in the game. I don't know it just seemed like a small issue to me that everyone's been making a big deal about. I still don't think it should be a deciding factor on whether to purchase it or not.

I suppose I could see why it might add more realism to it.

edit: why the hell get words like retar. and who.. censored?

Does that mean you were going to call me those till you found out it was censored?

Was that for Battlefield 2 of Bad Company 2? Some people are saying its for the upcoming game, but on the post, it has a Battlefield 2 logo.

BF_SUB.pomppaduur wrote:

xbox.Beasty Drummer wrote:Ill take that as Console is getting screwed over, once again.

Of course you are getting screwed over. Simple fact with any game console. Just buy a PC and be happy with the freedom of modding and other fantastic features.

dude stfu every post you make is about how crappy you think the console is .. we know that by now just shut up and sit in the corner...

Ok, I'm getting tired of PC fanboys being all around jerks because there mad that consoles get more sales.

Do you know why consoles get more sales? Because they are almost as good as PCs (no modding, boo hoo) Cost WAY less, and have fewer problems.

And I'm tired of DICE listening to the greedy PC whiners (by the way, I have noting against PCs or PC gamers, just the ones that are anti-console jerks) who spam the forums saying that they actually want features taken AWAY from consoles, which I can only imagine is so they feel their $3,000+ PC purchase was justified.

DICE is now removing features which could be easily included on consoles, and saying that PCs might still have them. I thought they would be smarter than this, and I am still hoping they reconsider.

Come on DICE, I don't want to see you lose half your fanbase.

xbox.DarthNorrington wrote:Ok, I'm getting tired of PC fanboys being all around jerks because there mad that consoles get more sales.

Do you know why consoles get more sales? Because they are almost as good as PCs (no modding, boo hoo) Cost WAY less, and have fewer problems.

And I'm tired of DICE listening to the greedy PC whiners (by the way, I have noting against PCs or PC gamers, just the ones that are anti-console jerks) who spam the forums saying that they actually want features taken AWAY from consoles, which I can only imagine is so they feel their $3,000+ PC purchase was justified.

DICE is now removing features which could be easily included on consoles, and saying that PCs might still have them. I thought they would be smarter than this, and I am still hoping they reconsider.

Come on DICE, I don't want to see you lose half your fanbase.

I agree... Be fair... it's all the same game...

xbox.DarthNorrington wrote:Ok, I'm getting tired of PC fanboys being all around jerks because there mad that consoles get more sales.

Do you know why consoles get more sales? Because they are almost as good as PCs (no modding, boo hoo) Cost WAY less, and have fewer problems.

And I'm tired of DICE listening to the greedy PC whiners (by the way, I have noting against PCs or PC gamers, just the ones that are anti-console jerks) who spam the forums saying that they actually want features taken AWAY from consoles, which I can only imagine is so they feel their $3,000+ PC purchase was justified.

DICE is now removing features which could be easily included on consoles, and saying that PCs might still have them. I thought they would be smarter than this, and I am still hoping they reconsider.

Come on DICE, I don't want to see you lose half your fanbase.

HEAR HEAR. PC players are more of a nerd then console players and whine harder to. consoles r quickly replacing PC's for the shear fact there cheaper and more portable. PLUS controls are way easier then mouse + keyboard crap any day but thats my opinion.

Damn Zerk is one worthless piece of *. You people realize that the only info we're gonna get is just game info from him.

What we want is a game discussion. WHY is the PC getting stuff that a console should get as well?

I don't care what tank is in the game or your one sentence reasons as to why this is that.

Why is prone not in the game? a simple * question that no one here should have to wait for.

Are you really gonna wait until the time is right just to tell un the reason. Which will probably be something like,"We're * retarded what do you exspect?" (sorry putting an actual reason that would actually probably be used was to hard to write since any reason for no prone or anything esle that yall came up with would be stupid as * anyway)

lol you just realized zerk was worthless. He found his little april fools thing hilarious and said how we all fell for it. It was obviously fake and everyone knew it. He's perfect for this board. Just like how DICE bypasses adding stuff like clan support and other features for quirky little things like smiley faces on grenades, cookie cutter destruction, and "cool" artillery strikes at the ends of games, Zerk bypasses useful information for crap.

MAIN.Emperor Sulla wrote:Damn Zerk is one worthless piece of *. You people realize that the only info we're gonna get is just game info from him.

What we want is a game discussion. WHY is the PC getting stuff that a console should get as well?

I don't care what tank is in the game or your one sentence reasons as to why this is that.

Why is prone not in the game? a simple * question that no one here should have to wait for.

Are you really gonna wait until the time is right just to tell un the reason. Which will probably be something like,"We're * retarded what do you exspect?" (sorry putting an actual reason that would actually probably be used was to hard to write since any reason for no prone or anything esle that yall came up with would be stupid as * anyway)

Hey Sulla, just a quick fact check on my behalf.

DICE is making the game, not you. DICE has decided that, as of right now, prone will not be in the console version; but who knows, they can change their minds, but it's too early to officially announce anything game changing such as that. DICE decided that prone wasn't good enough to put in the console version of the game. If you want the prone so badly, then go play it on PC.

Thats all i can say for right now. Relax, because the game is still under a lot of development.

cem_ea_id.TMES wrote: The votes are in, over 80% of the forum believes that PC, for some reason, is getting a big advantage over console. Prone? Clan support? BASIC features. So why?

By the way, I'm not trying to be naggy. I saw this on the BF2 forums and it worked so I figured I'd give it a go.

You wana know why the pc version will get a bunch of extras ?

Because there is this "Belief" that console gamers are casuals that they are not hardcore at all. So they try to dumb things down to make it easier for them to play, but at the same time they ruin games by unbalancing them and removing vast features Bad company is a good example.

They need to develop primarily with the hardcore crowd in mind , and make a pc game first, then port that to the consoles with all of the features, and the complex deep gameplay. We dont want watered down battlefields anymore.

Hey guys, stop harassing Zerk. He doesn't actually WORK for DICE, he just runs the forum as a moderator. So, it actually depends on DICE's responsibility to release info for Zerk to release to us.

Besides, I honestly don't get PC gamers. They won't buy games because it has no prone, less than 64 players, and some other stuff. Just because a game doesn't have all the features a PC game will have doesn't mean its not just as fun. Prone was taken out because DICE believes all console gamers to be superiorly idiotic to all other beings on earth, and that we require extreme care (don't flame me, I'm not a PC gamer, I've been playing consoles my entire life). So, they think better squad options, prone, and more people will mess up our minds and we'll sue DICE for their attempts to make us think.

And I don't blame them. More than half of the console FPS games out there are very dumbed down. They have an option for auto-aim, damage is nerfed so much a rocket launcher takes four hits to kill a person, and they have absolutely no team work. And most people on BC1 online don't really talk, except about their personal lives, and only sometimes with team work (unless you're playing with friends). But, apparently, DICE saw we can be more team players than lone wolves, so they're improving a lot of stuff. Now, we can have multiple squads playing together as a team full of friends.

In reality, PC games get more stuff because PC games require WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more skill than a console game. Look at the massive difference between PC map editors and the one on Halo 3. You have to micromanage on every game, even FPS. I've heard somewhere that everything in 1942 had a ammo counter, including tanks, planes, and boats. So, you had to have some ammo drops somewhere to resupply your tanks. You had to work as a team, resupplying your tank, healing it, healing your team mates, and communicating constantly just to push forward into a flag and capture it.

All DICE really needs to do it just realize that there is some people out there on consoles that really want to play together. Most people won't, but some will. DICE just doesn't want a lot of features going to waste. Really, all of the people here on this forum are hardcore as can be, but a majority of console players don't play as a team. So, what's the point if only 10% of the console population (not actual numbers, just substituting) actually use your extremely advanced squad system and work together for over complicated plans? PC gamers as a whole are more dedicated to their games, and is why they actually get more features than us: because they actually use it.

MAIN.zerk16 wrote:

MAIN.Emperor Sulla wrote:Damn Zerk is one worthless piece of *. You people realize that the only info we're gonna get is just game info from him.

What we want is a game discussion. WHY is the PC getting stuff that a console should get as well?

I don't care what tank is in the game or your one sentence reasons as to why this is that.

Why is prone not in the game? a simple * question that no one here should have to wait for.

Are you really gonna wait until the time is right just to tell un the reason. Which will probably be something like,"We're * retarded what do you exspect?" (sorry putting an actual reason that would actually probably be used was to hard to write since any reason for no prone or anything esle that yall came up with would be stupid as * anyway)

Hey Sulla, just a quick fact check on my behalf.

DICE is making the game, not you. DICE has decided that, as of right now, prone will not be in the console version; but who knows, they can change their minds, but it's too early to officially announce anything game changing such as that. DICE decided that prone wasn't good enough to put in the console version of the game. If you want the prone so badly, then go play it on PC.

Thats all i can say for right now. Relax, because the game is still under a lot of development.

Not trying to be mean or anything but lots of us want prone and playing the game on the PC is not an option for most of us either because we already own a console and dont want to soupe out our PC or cant afford it.

Prone = simply a quick programming script that doesn't take more than a few weeks to make*. Your guy lays down, is more vulnerable since mobility is massively reduced, and not much benefit is added. This should be such a simple decision to make. Surely not something for every single fan to kill themselves if it's not added. Off the top of my head, I can only think of CoD allowing people to go prone. And that was more like the millions of PC game style, where it only takes 1 second to do. Which is bad.


But why do people constantly harass Zerk? He's just a messenger of news that everyone else can go out and find themselves because you know how the media works. I mean, look at the war in Afghanistan! We get news of the numbers of troops and the province they're attacking just hours after it happens!!


* = I honestly have no idea if that's true.

xbox.k1ll8 saurav wrote:Hey guys, stop harassing Zerk. He doesn't actually WORK for DICE, he just runs the forum as a moderator. So, it actually depends on DICE's responsibility to release info for Zerk to release to us.

Besides, I honestly don't get PC gamers. They won't buy games because it has no prone, less than 64 players, and some other stuff. Just because a game doesn't have all the features a PC game will have doesn't mean its not just as fun. Prone was taken out because DICE believes all console gamers to be superiorly idiotic to all other beings on earth, and that we require extreme care (don't flame me, I'm not a PC gamer, I've been playing consoles my entire life). So, they think better squad options, prone, and more people will mess up our minds and we'll sue DICE for their attempts to make us think.

And I don't blame them. More than half of the console FPS games out there are very dumbed down. They have an option for auto-aim, damage is nerfed so much a rocket launcher takes four hits to kill a person, and they have absolutely no team work. And most people on BC1 online don't really talk, except about their personal lives, and only sometimes with team work (unless you're playing with friends). But, apparently, DICE saw we can be more team players than lone wolves, so they're improving a lot of stuff. Now, we can have multiple squads playing together as a team full of friends.In reality, PC games get more stuff because PC games require WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more skill than a console game. Look at the massive difference between PC map editors and the one on Halo 3. You have to micromanage on every game, even FPS. I've heard somewhere that everything in 1942 had a ammo counter, including tanks, planes, and boats. So, you had to have some ammo drops somewhere to resupply your tanks. You had to work as a team, resupplying your tank, healing it, healing your team mates, and communicating constantly just to push forward into a flag and capture it.

All DICE really needs to do it just realize that there is some people out there on consoles that really want to play together. Most people won't, but some will. DICE just doesn't want a lot of features going to waste. Really, all of the people here on this forum are hardcore as can be, but a majority of console players don't play as a team. So, what's the point if only 10% of the console population (not actual numbers, just substituting) actually use your extremely advanced squad system and work together for over complicated plans? PC gamers as a whole are more dedicated to their games, and is why they actually get more features than us: because they actually use it.

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