I get sick of these people who say what makes you think you install it more than 5 times . Well inside every PC theirs this disk its called a hard disc and most people only have a set amount of space and as new programs then need to take of the old programs like dead space or mass effect ect to make space for the new ones. Then they may want to put it back on again at a later date rinse and repeat you get it now.

Thus, the great and ironic paradox of DRM. Pirates laugh it off and never need touch it, and paying customers get shafted. Since when did a system that only hurts the paying customer become standard?

hmm, it's because that atificial idea is being put into peoples minds that "drm ALWAYS puts someone who buys a game in dissadvantage', which is untrue to me. Some have problems yes but this general idea that is being spread rather than to proclaim the nuances: it's wrong imo.

if a gang of thieves have a sauna at home and make alot of profit from stealing, does that mean that normal people have to go and steal as well to get an equal level of prosperety ?

The illegal downloaders always have the advantage because they are doing something illegally, not because they have the right to do so.

And it's kind of easy to forgive on an individual basis. I can say to a friend - well i don't mind that you have this game-. BUt if you zoom out and you see the bigger picture and see many people do this you know how wrong it becomes.

Message was edited by: CosmicD (Spore)

You can install the game unlimited times on one computer.

And you can install it on 4 other computers as well. Hey I don't like DRM either, but Dead Space is too good to miss.

Yeah, and so is the next game and the next one and the next one. And suddenly every game you buy has this DRM on it and you're in the situation where you run into problems and you can't play your games, so you end up waiting days for replies from tech support unless you want to spend money on phone calls; or you want to upgrade your hardware and you're forced to uninstall and reinstall a dozen+ games each time; or they decide to take the authentication servers down and you have a nice pile of coasters; or...

No thanks.

Guess what, you not buying the game is only denying yourself the pleasure of some fantastic games.

Yes do as much as you can to get DRM removed, but I can live with it.

It's like rich people who buy non-conflict diamonds. As if them not buying conflict diamonds is actually making a difference. Another analogy: cutting a weed at the stem and not pulling it out by the roots.

And supporting the use of this DRM by buying games that use it will most definitely result in nothing changing. My personal non-sale won't mean squat in the grand scheme of things (I'm not naive enough to think it will) but, like any other protest, as more and more people make a stand things may very well change.

So yeah, I'm probably missing out on a great game. But it's only a game. It's not something I need and its not like there aren't plenty of other games to choose from that don't use this useless and completely ineffective DRM. I'll throw my monetary support towards games that don't have this on it.

*edit* And since you seem fond of analogies, here's an addition to your weed analogy: let the weed grow without doing anything at all to it (or, better yet, feed it) and suddenly your yard is full of weeds.

Message was edited by: Eurypterid (EA Id)

It's your loss.

Companies will only go so far with DRM. At this point I think it can only get better.

My loss? I'm not losing anything. I save myself the price of the game, I don't have to deal with the DRM and any issues it may cause, I have other games to play right now, and Fallout 3 comes out next week.

But I think you're fooling yourself if you think they'll only go so far with DRM. Maybe things will get better. Here's hoping.

You're losing out of (IMO, and many others) one of the best original IP's I've played in years.

No I'm not fooling myself, there is a limit on how far they will let DRM go before a lot of people stop buying their games due to it.

Yeah, well they've gone beyond my (and many others') limit.

It's unfortunate, but in order to take a stand against this DRM, you have to forgo the game. It's hardly any kind of firm commitment to one's principles if one says "Well, this DRM sucks and I don't approve of it, so I'll complain about it but I'll just overlook it because the game's good" and buy the game anyway.

If you say "the DRM sucks" on the one hand and go out and buy the game on the other, what message does that send? None, other than the fact you're willing to shell out money in support of it. I'm not going to do that. I'm saying "This DRM sucks" and I'm voting with my wallet. It's the only kind of statement that means anything.

*edit* Holy crow, the word that means what a vacuum does is censored here? Wow.

Message was edited by: Eurypterid (EA Id)

I am still confused as to why anyone would install the game 5 times, in such a low time-spam, that a call to support is too much.
Why would you uninstall and reinstall a game five times in a month?

Also, go ahead and stay away if you will, but many people still buy this. Not everyone are having problems with it.

Sweet jesus, I didn't realize I could take the disc out! Hurrah!

The only problem occurs when your DRM prevents people who actually buy the game from being able to play it because of problems with SecuROM.

This idea that those who refuse to work with DRM won't play it is curious. Those who refuse to buy Dead Space with DRM may not buy it or play it, but many, many others will simply pirate it. They aren't going to "deny" themselves, they'll simply pirate it. And in the end DRM, if nothing else, promotes piracy.