then explain operation flashpoint 2

BF_SUB.pomppaduur wrote:

xbox.BlackMagicMouse wrote:

BF_SUB.SturmerFIN wrote:Im PC gamer.
I have nothing against consoles.

But I hate thing that games are made for consoles and Pad controllers -> limiting games hugely.

- No dedicated servers (have you heard PS3 or Xbox360 servers?)
- Small maps (Consoles cant handle large maps)
- Short visibility (Consoles cant handle long draw distance)
- Extremely simplified controls. No Prone, No leaning, No firing mods... lot more (Pad controller)
- 3rd person view (1st person too slow with Pad controller)
- Unrealistic damage. (Console players lack mobility that PC players have)

So why PC players should suffer because Consoles just cant run games as they are meant to be???

If console games would just support Mouse/keyboard.
Well thats not going to happen. How retarded it may sound.

most ignorant console post ever. console can do all those things......the market just isnt there for it.

No, the consoles can NOT do those things. It's just technically impossible (short visibility and small maps).

Consoles can do those.
-all the Bf games on the console used dedicated severs
-Maps on the console isn't Bf 2 big, but they're still pretty damn big
-there is very high visability for most console games today, that was more of an issue with last gen consoles
-plenty of console games have had prone, leaning, and firing modes
-1st person on the console isn't slow you just don't get as much precision
-I'm not sure what you mean by unrealistc damage

and console won't support key/mouse because not everyone wants to use keyboard and mouse, it works great for pc, but for console the controller fits better and in my opinion feels better in your hands and controls better. Pc might offer better accuracy and precision then a console, but controllers work just fine to consoles.

Though what I say won't matter because you all will just see me as the "typical console player" (even though I play on both) and just continue on with your stupidity of pc is great and console is Sh*t when they're pretty much almost on par with each other and with next gen consoles probably be start to intergrate some of the features offered on the pc.

This thread is for trolls......

PC gamer here. I am not sure why DICE wouldn't allow prone and clan tags for console. Doesn't really make sense, and I feel for you (console gamers) because those are features that should be taken for granted. The only reason I can think of for not allowing prone is because there are not enough buttons on a controller to allow the controls that are absolutely necessary for this game. They are not going to limit the console experience just for kicks, just to make the PC gamers feel superior somehow. There would have to be a good reason.

That said, try to be thankful that you are not completely ignored like the PC gamers in the IW forums. I, for one, hope that everything works out for you guys because it sucks being stabbed in the back by your favorite devs. I know how that feels.

Um dude the controls for many FPS with prone is push right stick once for crouch, again for prone, and again for back to standing(or crouch then standing.)

MAIN.Emperor Sulla wrote:Um dude the controls for many FPS with prone is push right stick once for crouch, again for prone, and again for back to standing(or crouch then standing.)

Isn't the issue here that prone won't be allowed? I'm saying that if its not, there is probably a good reason. Like maybe the "push right stick-2nd time" is for... "Player scratches balls" or something equally important. Actually I have no idea what it would be for and can't imagine why they would take it out. It would be nice to know though, and hence this thread. I'm just trying to offer up a reason for the reason if you know-what-im-sayin.

bfheroes_web.Occams_Razer wrote:

MAIN.Emperor Sulla wrote:Um dude the controls for many FPS with prone is push right stick once for crouch, again for prone, and again for back to standing(or crouch then standing.)

Isn't the issue here that prone won't be allowed? I'm saying that if its not, there is probably a good reason. Like maybe the "push right stick-2nd time" is for... "Player scratches balls" or something equally important. Actually I have no idea what it would be for and can't imagine why they would take it out. It would be nice to know though, and hence this thread. I'm just trying to offer up a reason for the reason if you know-what-im-sayin.

no. no1 here knows what you are saying.

xbox.BlackMagicMouse wrote:

bfheroes_web.Occams_Razer wrote:

MAIN.Emperor Sulla wrote:Um dude the controls for many FPS with prone is push right stick once for crouch, again for prone, and again for back to standing(or crouch then standing.)

Isn't the issue here that prone won't be allowed? I'm saying that if its not, there is probably a good reason. Like maybe the "push right stick-2nd time" is for... "Player scratches balls" or something equally important. Actually I have no idea what it would be for and can't imagine why they would take it out. It would be nice to know though, and hence this thread. I'm just trying to offer up a reason for the reason if you know-what-im-sayin.

no. no1 here knows what you are saying.

Whatever dude.

bfheroes_web.Occams_Razer wrote:PC gamer here. I am not sure why DICE wouldn't allow prone and clan tags for console. Doesn't really make sense, and I feel for you (console gamers) because those are features that should be taken for granted. The only reason I can think of for not allowing prone is because there are not enough buttons on a controller to allow the controls that are absolutely necessary for this game. They are not going to limit the console experience just for kicks, just to make the PC gamers feel superior somehow. There would have to be a good reason.

That said, try to be thankful that you are not completely ignored like the PC gamers in the IW forums. I, for one, hope that everything works out for you guys because it sucks being stabbed in the back by your favorite devs. I know how that feels.

They're not puting prone on pc either. Its not because of the platform, its because it doesn't fit well in the game, atleast thats what DICE is saying.

cem_ea_id.Her0icPlane wrote:They're not puting prone on pc either. Its not because of the platform, its because it doesn't fit well in the game, atleast thats what DICE is saying.

Well at least we're back on topic, but, how can you be sure EA/DICE (DICEA) are not going to put prone in the PC version?

As sinnaco, points out in http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/330410.page (first post), there's conflicting information as to the status of prone in BFBC2, in fact not only GameSpy, but GSI, and Blues News are carrying a news that corroborates Zerk's original statement at the beginning of this thread, unfortunately sinnaco's thread was locked without a response from anyone at EA/DICE.

It's difficult to understand how or why EA/DICE would want PR statements that offer information that's substantially incorrect and contradictory; especially when it regards a feature highly valued by many PC BF2, Special Forces, and 2142 Fans... While it's been said that David Goldfarb's authority supercedes Zerk's (and that's obviously probably true); it is:

· reasonable to assume that Zerk got his information from an official source
· easy to spoof an account on Twitter
· very bad PR to leave Fans dangling with contradictory information
· even worse PR to have contradictory information in commercial news channels
· ridiculous a DICE official would use Twitter to clear up a misunderstanding that now includes three news channels

All this is compounded by all the controversy and waiting PC Fans have endured (that Zerk politely acknowledges) regarding the PC Battlefield franchise -- making even more ridiculous that EA/DICE would let yet another floater like this sit unresolved...

What's more Goldfarb's remark is so off the charts and so detached from the reality of PC Battlefield Fan perception one has to wonder if the follow on remark that 'David's only joking' might not be true, or if drug abuse, or spoofing is involved (or some combination of all the above)...

I think a lot of paying PC Battlefield Fans feel pooped on enough that this sort of thing shouldn't stand -- and if not on that accout, just out of good business sense...

cem_ea_id.Her0icPlane wrote:

bfheroes_web.Occams_Razer wrote:....

They're not puting prone on pc either. Its not because of the platform, its because it doesn't fit well in the game, atleast thats what DICE is saying.

Ok that makes sense at least, that they would change it across the board and not just for console. The title of the post is a little misleading in that case.

sinnaco wrote:Ddidn't zerk say just the other day that the PC version would have prone?
According to this new Tweet no version will have prone.

David's tweet: http://twitter.com/locust9/statuses/5213738351

Zerks Post: http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/30/293857.page#3110573

cem_ea_id.Hoak wrote:

sinnaco wrote:Ddidn't zerk say just the other day that the PC version would have prone?
According to this new Tweet no version will have prone.

David's tweet: http://twitter.com/locust9/statuses/5213738351

Zerks Post: http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/30/293857.page#3110573

so? will there be prone? lol

cem_ea_id.thecouchguy wrote:

cem_ea_id.Hoak wrote:

sinnaco wrote:Ddidn't zerk say just the other day that the PC version would have prone?
According to this new Tweet no version will have prone.

David's tweet: http://twitter.com/locust9/statuses/5213738351

Zerks Post: http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/30/293857.page#3110573

so? will there be prone? lol

no there wont be prone on either platform. someone kill this thread

edit:
this is from the uk forums. the moderator pasted the conversation which was posted on twitter from a GAME DEVELOPER who is working on the game.



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Completely absurd not having prone on consoles! why should it be different from pc platform?... that's my opinion.

There is no prone in any bfbc sku's confirmed on twitter.

I don't think bfbc will ever have it, they would of already said by now.


question:

@locust9 Will prone position be in Bad Company 2 , I would really like to know that, thanks and good luck !

@AinEstonia there will be no prone.. we tried it many times and decided it didn't feel right for the dynamic, destructible world we made.

and then motorbreath said:

@locust9 Well that kind of sucks. Since PC is much faster gameplay & faster reactions, it would seem prone wouldn't affect too much? 2142!

reply was:

@M0t0rBreath no prone in any sku of BC2, sorry! Hours are variable.. but an 8 hr day is standard when we are not crunching...

there u go.. so its a no for all bfbc2 versions.

Can't believe this thread keeps getting revived. LETS THIS PC VS CONSOLE THREAD DIE ALREADY!!!!