Need for Speed Racing Games

I just joined a lobby and before we started racing I received a PM informing me that the two racers in the lobby were using a plus 4 cheat, what this cheat does is makes a 14 rated car into a 18 rated car in a 14 lobby. After two races there was no doubt in my mind that the two racers in question were indeed using the cheat. Anybody else come across or know about this? I thought I seen everything in this game but racers who use this cheat have reached a new low in my opinion..

You're on PS3, aren't you, Ricky? I haven't seen that one. Mind you, there's a tendency for a lot of people to look strangely at an LP640 racing in 14.0, especially as it takes off like a rocket and is VERY hard to catch if tuned right. I've seen quite a few people talk of 'cheating', but it's simply someone who chose to NOT upgrade the LP640 to a Works level.

What cars were these two using? And did you get a lap time from the race? Next time this happens to you, copy those down (use the Leaderboard at the end of the race to get the figures) and post them here. Pay attention to what course they are on, as well. There are quite a few 'cheats' cutting track, and if they are out of sight, you might not notice it. Try to keep one eye on the race display, as usually when a track is cut, you'll see the car times jump suddenly (I use it to check whether trailing cars are using the chicane shortcuts).

Best case scenario would be the cheat being used on Road America or AutopolisGP, as there simply are NO shortcuts on those. Then we can see for ourselves if a hack is being used. Thing is, I often beat people in the same car by 10, 20, 30 seconds or more, even on Short Races. It's easy for some of these noob kids to shout 'Foul!' when it boils down to simply good driving. BTW, has anyone considered this might simply be a 'glitch' in the Lobby system and timing software? I've seen (and had it happen to me) some really unbelievable times when the software online takes a powder...

To be honest, I always thought the PS3 was much less 'hackable' than XBox and PC... I am going to be disappointed if we end up with the same free-for-all that the modded PC players have to deal with.

I've seen some cheating like this, but it doesn't follow the + 4.00 rule you speak of. I've raced against 2 Works LP640 (21.99 the huge spoiler was the hint) and a Works Z06 (20.00) in 14.00. At Road America, the Z06 reached a time of 1:59.XXX and he ran off the track at the first corner on this lap. The Works LP640 were both at Nordschleife Aremberg (same race), and their times were around 2:15.XXX. The drivers I can remember doing this were LaNcEr_2006 and s7twinturbo (I can't remember the third). Destinkeys, I also believed the same thing, but it looks like Shift will soon become a huge carnage event of Works LP640s in every car rating.

I know of this bug you speak of - it is indeed a bug within the game - and it has nothing to do with a 3rd party program or hack or whatever you call those things, but I can not explain what it is about since every noob in the game would use it. But it has nothing to do with cutting lines or lag or anything else for that matter. This is something that has been discussed in ISRC II Inner Circle sub forum and it will not be revealed for anyone. Leave the subject alone and hopefully nobody finds out.

To Destinkeys: The LP-640 as 14.00 car is slow as hell and do not stand a chance against the Gallardo.

Poul

cem_ea_id.Destinkeys wrote:You're on PS3, aren't you, Ricky? I haven't seen that one. Mind you, there's a tendency for a lot of people to look strangely at an LP640 racing in 14.0, especially as it takes off like a rocket and is VERY hard to catch if tuned right. I've seen quite a few people talk of 'cheating', but it's simply someone who chose to NOT upgrade the LP640 to a Works level.

You know I respect your opinion but one thing I do know is a average driver can't do 1:37's on Autopolis & 1:18's at Laguna Seca in a 14 rated car on a PS3. I have a well tuned Gallardo and would lose over 3 seconds just on the straightaway.

I raced 7twinturbo and another persona with twinturbo in the alias( undoubtedly the same person) in two different races, and both had a Porsche Cayman S in a 10 rated race. The Cayman went WAY faster than a 10 rated Cayman should and finished the race with a ridiculous lead. So, I bought a Cayman S and tried every imaginable combo of upgrades and tuning and could not come close to these lap times. Prior to this I was also matched against a Zonda R in a 14 rated race with predictable results. I don't know how these guys are doing this, but if more players figure this out, this game is toast.

If you ask me, the game is already lost. In all likelyhood this thing is probably a Trainer or a modded game and not a glitch. Just one more reason why NFS online is dead to me has has been for a long time now. I wish I could say that I was surprised by this devlopment but I cannot.

A trainer or modded game on the PS3? I don't think so...

Texas, I've pulled sub 2:00 times just in my Gallardo at Road America in a 14, so it CAN be done. You know I'm not THAT good!

USAMuscle, isn't there a Reward Cayman with a bigger turbo and slicks? Maybe that's what you met?

But yes, every now and again there a glitch in the Lobby system. But, on the whole, this is HARDLY a common-place occurrence, and, bottom-line, if an exploitable hack gets out in the public, there are STILL Private Races.

To be honest, it doesn't take any hack to ruin this game. It can easily be spoiled by one kid with nothing but mayhem on his mind, and a total disregard of whether HE wins or not. We've ALL seen this behavior... But, all in all, the VAST majority of my online races are incident free. At this point, I'm not worried...

Stubborn Florida Englishman! lol I'll take Grnkjr0's advise and let this go but it definitely sucks to lose to drivers with such a big advantage. Unlike the punting this bug has no defense. It's like driving well tuned Gallardo vs Zonda in a 14 race You can out drive them and still get smoked. Just keep your eye out for the 640's (mrnyceguy23 & sorel-tracy) in a 14 rated lobby, 90% of the time that is the car of choice...

Texas, I've pulled sub 2:00 times just in my Gallardo at Road America in a 14, so it CAN be done. You know I'm not THAT good!

A Gallardo is one thing, The Z06 is another. My average around there is 2:01.5 in the Z06. This Ultra Z06 I spoke of was also getting low 43s at Dakota GP. That track isn't the easiest the cheat in BTW. This hack isn't all that popular AFAIK, and Shift is on its last leg in its lifetime IMO.

Rickracer7 - Yes, I have encoutered mmrniceguy and something strange seems to be going on there also.
Destinkeys - I am on PS3 platform and have not seen a reward Porsche Cayman. Not saying there is not one available, but I have not seen one. Also, it would be odd for a reward car to be able to blow off any and all competition in a 10 rated race( or any race for that matter). I don't think it's supposed to work that way. Just my opinion.

Have you ever msg'd these so-called cheaters? Ever got a reply?

The LP640 at 14.0 might be a bit of a dog at Stock, but what about tuning it, especially its' suspension and steering, gear ratios and downforce, with perhaps the same values you'd use for a Works? Even Stock, it accelerates amazingly fast, and I'm sure, just like the tunings for the Works, that there is performance to be wrung out of a 14.0 version.

I'm not saying that the hack DOESN'T exist (although it's MUCH more likely a Lobby exploit than a hacked game), but I race online almost exclusively, and I don't think I've seen this PS3 cheat YET. With luck, it will stay a minor bug. When I take a look at the online leaderboards, and see, even allowing for some of the track cutting, just how many seconds faster than me some of the top drivers can get, sometimes I'm prepared to allow a car I THOUGHT was a lesser one a much faster time that I previously considered. After all, if a great driver can improve my times by five, perhaps ten seconds depending on track, it stands to reason they can coax this improvement out of ALL the cars...

cem_ea_id.Destinkeys wrote:Have you ever msg'd these so-called cheaters? Ever got a reply?

The LP640 at 14.0 might be a bit of a dog at Stock, but what about tuning it, especially its' suspension and steering, gear ratios and downforce, with perhaps the same values you'd use for a Works? Even Stock, it accelerates amazingly fast, and I'm sure, just like the tunings for the Works, that there is performance to be wrung out of a 14.0 version.

I'm not saying that the hack DOESN'T exist (although it's MUCH more likely a Lobby exploit than a hacked game), but I race online almost exclusively, and I don't think I've seen this PS3 cheat YET. With luck, it will stay a minor bug. When I take a look at the online leaderboards, and see, even allowing for some of the track cutting, just how many seconds faster than me some of the top drivers can get, sometimes I'm prepared to allow a car I THOUGHT was a lesser one a much faster time that I previously considered. After all, if a great driver can improve my times by five, perhaps ten seconds depending on track, it stands to reason they can coax this improvement out of ALL the cars...

Why in the world are you not satisfied with the anwer I provided you with? As I told you all ready - it´s an exploit of a bug within the game and it has nothing to do with "super" tuning, hacks, trainers, mode, cutting tracks or that he just happend to meet Michael Schumacher online - IT´S AN EXPLOIT OF BUG within the game - final. As I all ready wrote above - this has been discussed in ISRC II and it won´t get further than that - so leave it be.

Poul

cem_ea_id.Destinkeys wrote:
Have you ever msg'd these so-called cheaters? Ever got a reply?

The LP640 at 14.0 might be a bit of a dog at Stock, but what about tuning it, especially its' suspension and steering, gear ratios and downforce, with perhaps the same values you'd use for a Works? Even Stock, it accelerates amazingly fast, and I'm sure, just like the tunings for the Works, that there is performance to be wrung out of a 14.0 version.

I'm not saying that the hack DOESN'T exist (although it's MUCH more likely a Lobby exploit than a hacked game), but I race online almost exclusively, and I don't think I've seen this PS3 cheat YET. With luck, it will stay a minor bug. When I take a look at the online leaderboards, and see, even allowing for some of the track cutting, just how many seconds faster than me some of the top drivers can get, sometimes I'm prepared to allow a car I THOUGHT was a lesser one a much faster time that I previously considered. After all, if a great driver can improve my times by five, perhaps ten seconds depending on track, it stands to reason they can coax this improvement out of ALL the cars...

Why in the world are you not satisfied with the anwer I provided you with? As I told you all ready - it´s an exploit of a bug within the game and it has nothing to do with "super" tuning, hacks, trainers, mode, cutting tracks or that he just happend to meet Michael Schumacher online - IT´S AN EXPLOIT OF BUG within the game - final. As I all ready wrote above - this has been discussed in ISRC II and it won´t get further than that - so leave it be.

Poul

Here we go....

So Poul, do you believe that there is a set limit on how fast a car can go at any rating/upgrade setup? Since there are so many variables involved, is this limit discoverable?

Destinkeys - I have messaged mmrnycyguy to have a discussion regarding what he is doing and got no reply.