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RJJ39


Joined: 07/19/2009 22:45:01
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I've seen this topic posted before but I'll bring it up again.

Regardless of pro or created players (and now some USA opponents - not just other countries), I see more and more of this supposed "lag" everyone talks about. I don't know how they're doing it *oops*... excuse me... what causes this anomaly, but something's not on the up and up with this. It's not "lag"

I've palyed over 100 matches online by now and the sequence of events is pretty clear: I've ripped an opponent for eighty straight points for a two-games to love lead, only to wind up losing 4-2 or in a tiebreaker because my opponent suddenly has the ability to jump from one end of the court to the other in the blink of an eye.

Then there's the "hanging ball" phenomenon - where you hit a shot that no gamer should be capable of getting to when all of a sudden the ball hangs mid-air spinning - until the opponent mysteriously pops from the back end of the court to the opposite side right on top of the net?

Like quitters and taunters, folks who take advantage of cheats and other glitches that can induce such affects online ruin the entire experience for me. Again, I don't know for a fact if this is simply an annoying glitch when playing online, or if others - who've experienced the same questionable timing of these instances as I have - feel there's something fishy going on.
DaveHill


Joined: 07/05/2009 20:50:05
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I know how you feel mate. I'm ok at the game, not great but not bad either. I've experienced lag with this game on a number of occasions so I know how that feels- frame rate drop/screen freezes momentarily. The ''hanging ball'' and ''teleporters'' imo certainly don't feel like lag. For one thing I can still move my player smoothly as the ball hangs there waiting to be smacked by my opponent and the frame rate doesn't drop when my opponent skips from wide left on the baseline to far right at the net. Of course I can't say for sure it isn't lag but I must admit it feels an awful lot like hacking.

Also just yesterday I faced off against the world number 7. He served first and I ran him close, he scraped through off a deuce. Then I won my own service game dropping two points. There was absolutely no lag, everything was running perfectly smoothly. All of sudden in the following two games I encountered ''hanging ball'' and ''teleporting'' and whilst I struggled on he squeezed out a 3-1 victory. Suffice to say I was incensed by this so I asked for a re-match and he obliged. Next thing I know he serves four straight aces because my character WILL NOT MOVE HIS FEET between the start of the service motion and after the ball has bounced past me on my side... I was destroyed 3-0. His playing strategy did not alter from the first match which was played in roughly 50% ''lag'' and I ran him close. The second match was 100% 'lag'' and I didn't win one point. ''Lag'' NEVER occurred when the ball was on my side of the field or in a way in which it could be deemed to have benefitted me.

Surely something's not right??
SonicUrineBoy


Joined: 07/09/2009 18:48:03
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I don't understand how you cannot think that it is lag? It's insanely obvious. There may be some secret to causing glitches to happen, like the other player getting a point when he clearly hit the ball out or when you clearly hit it in, or the serve glitch. I'm not sure how you could do it, but it seems plausible.

However, I don't think somebody can teleport on purpose. The reason an opponent looks like he is teleporting is because his connection sucks and what you see as an impossible shot for him to get from point A to point B, isn't really impossible at all. Point A may have never happened or happened several seconds before you saw it happen, so that argument is null.
RJJ39


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I understand your point Sonic, and it would seem to make the most sense - but have you played other online games where your player or team (thinking Madden specfically) was still completely under your control while the opponent's wasn't? All I've ever experienced is complete lock-up or both players suffering jagged reactions or slower play.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see how an opponents poor connection or LAN speed (a) wouldn't affect both players negatively and (b) only seems to significantly benefit them - I mean, just today I was online playing at the French open - which perfectly depicts the dynamics of the clay court I might add - and I hit a lob to a back corner of his serve. I rushed the net as he ran cross-court to return. He smashed it right to me, and as his player is still sliding to the far right I backhanded it to the opposite end; as soon as I hit it his player "popped" from the far left side sliding motion to being right on top of the ball in the opposite corner about 40 feet in the other direction!

I don't see how it suddenly becomes a "lag" problem when the synergy of play & the chain of events leading up to that specific shot had flowed perfectly up to that point. But I appreciate your input - it's definitely a funky thing to play through.

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KenifJambo


Joined: 07/03/2009 09:01:13
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The lag is the information getting to your wii (and thus your wii knowing what to present graphically).

Whilst you may see your opponent on the left hand side of the court, on your opponents screen he may have been moving across court to the ball as he would any other shot.
Because of the lag on your screen it looks like a teleport when he played as normal.

I've seen this happen regularly on Konami's Pro Evolution Soccer on both PC and PS3.

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GordonShumwy


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Well, I only played one game where I noticed the lag (and one where I didn't), but my observation was that the lag works to the advantage of the serving player. The other player served -- scored all aces, I couldn't move. When I served (even slow ones) I scored all the aces.

Lag totally ruined it for me tho, as much as I love the game, until I won Grand Slam on hard and realistic game/set counts, I don't think I'll be back online.
SonicUrineBoy


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cem_ea_id.RJJ39 wrote:I understand your point Sonic, and it would seem to make the most sense - but have you played other online games where your player or team (thinking Madden specfically) was still completely under your control while the opponent's wasn't? All I've ever experienced is complete lock-up or both players suffering jagged reactions or slower play.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see how an opponents poor connection or LAN speed (a) wouldn't affect both players negatively and (b) only seems to significantly benefit them - I mean, just today I was online playing at the French open - which perfectly depicts the dynamics of the clay court I might add - and I hit a lob to a back corner of his serve. I rushed the net as he ran cross-court to return. He smashed it right to me, and as his player is still sliding to the far right I backhanded it to the opposite end; as soon as I hit it his player "popped" from the far left side sliding motion to being right on top of the ball in the opposite corner about 40 feet in the other direction!

I don't see how it suddenly becomes a "lag" problem when the synergy of play & the chain of events leading up to that specific shot had flowed perfectly up to that point. But I appreciate your input - it's definitely a funky thing to play through.


Did you ever once think that your opponent is seeing you teleport as well? Just because your players movement doesn't lag, doesn't mean that that your opponent isn't seeing you teleport.

I've even played matches where I serve, the other person returns it, but I get the point anyway. It's not a cheat, just face it.
NOKUSS


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I think the lag and teleporting can be attributed to a few things:

People with dial-up...I started a match and the opening was going in super slow motion. The online portion of this game just was not designed for anyone with a slow internet connection.

People who live in other countries lag a lot. I notice it A TON with me and players from Australia. I don't know why. It's not just players from there but that is the majority of them when it comes to my online play.

People who use the nunchuck for some reason lag on my end. I don't know if it is the more exaggerated movement shown by using the nunchuck or what.


I can understand when some people think that it is done on purpose. I've had matches that are lag free up until I'm about to serve up 2-0 40-0 or 40-30 and then the lag and teleporting kicks in like mad. As for the returned serves not counting...I don't know why that happens. It is happening to me a lot lately. I even just lost to a highly ranked player because of the bug. Sometimes the return would go in and get returned back to me and sometimes it wouldn't. It is something that really should be addressed in the next version of the game.
SurfinBird


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I played someone from Japan the other day ranked in the top 500 or so - after I returned his serve, the ball would land in his court, nothing would happen (i.e. the game froze), and he would be awarded the point. This happened on every single return I made after he served. When I served, the game played normally and at regular pace, and we would even rally a bit. On his next service game, he would serve, I would return it, the ball would land on his side, bounce to him, nothing would happen (the game freezes again), and he would get the point!

Can't explain this one. Can you? I reported cheating on this one immediately to EA messenger.
AceAceBaby


Joined: 07/17/2009 17:41:39
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I've had problems with players from Australia and Japan. Lagaramma. Basically they have superpowers and have clearly bribed the umpire.
kwabalicious


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It's not really a cheat. Connection is just being lost. The online can't always keep up with a player in Germany. It may look like you,ve hit a winner, but on the other side, they are really right there. It is not a cheat, just a problem with the online mode.

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KENGYIN


Joined: 07/29/2009 02:17:30
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ive got gold speed and yet teleporting never happens to my advantage, so if sonicurineboy is right i might appear to be teleporting on my opponents screen but not on mine. so if anyone verses me (KENGYIN) could they please see if i ever "teleport"
thrillhouse7


Joined: 08/18/2009 05:36:34
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i had a game today were i was returning serves, but the umpire was giving the point to my opponent as aces! Was very annoying as there was nothing i could do.
Zenblend


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telporting is 100% real and it's not from lag time and it ruins the fun of the game.
SonicUrineBoy


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cem_ea_id.Zenblend wrote:telporting is 100% real and it's not from lag time and it ruins the fun of the game.


Ok...if it is not from lag time then what is it from? Santa?
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