Roster and Ratings Discussion: Dallas Cowboys

Hey guys, we are going to use this thread as the catch all Dallas Cowboys roster and ratings discussion. Got a problem with a guy being rated too high or too low, this is the place to speak your mind, but please keep it clean. If there is a guy on your team that’s not in the game, feel free to post that in here as well.

When you bring your argument, make sure you bring stats and provide as much reasoning as possible. Rating s Czar Donny Moore will be stopping by this thread from time to time, so your voice will actually be heard by the guy in charge of making all of the roster and ratings decisions for Madden NFL 10. Make it worthwhile.

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please get WR kevin ogletree in and also with a decent rating he is a lock to make the team and may even be the second wide receiver on the team

CSO_SUB.Hes tha one wrote:please get WR kevin ogletree in and also with a decent rating he is a lock to make the team and may even be the second wide receiver on the team

If or rather when Ogletree makes the team he will be & should be rated as the fastest WR on the team. I like his potential we will just have to wait & see if he can do something with it.

I know Roy Williams complained about it.. but he's right he is too slow on this game.. He should be around an 89/90 as opposed to his 86.. Thanks!

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I wouldn't put Roy as an 89-90 an 88 should be sufficient I mean he isn't that fast he is more of a possession receiver so an 88 would do him justice. I have a problem with Marion Barber being so slow you guys have him slower then Brandon Jacobs in speed and acceleration. I think Marion Barber should be an 88 in speed with a 92 in acceleration MBIII might not be the fastest but when he sees a whole he hits. On a side note I think TaShard Choice needs a little boost in carry he didn't fumble once when he took over for Felix and MBIII when they were hurt and he faced really good defenses in Giants and Pittsburgh. Oh yeah Orlando Scanny Scandricks speed and man coverage should go up. How do you have him on 09 at a 97 then on Madden 10 a 92 below Michael Jenkins 93 now I don't know how that works but Jenkins speed on 09 was a 93 I believe so he stays the same but Scanny drops 5 points for what.

Offense:

Romo: His throwing power needs to be increased to at least a 90 I'm not saying he has the biggest arm but he does have an arm. Also his Deep Ball Accuracy needs to be increased its a 77 vs. Chad Pennington a 75 you mean to tell me that Chad is 2 points below Romo for DAC. Romo should be in 80s. Vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZlIxToq-DM Sorry bout the music just turn volume off but :47-:53 validates my point about his arm and accuracy as does the video.

MBIII: Speed should be 88 with an acceleration of 92 that's the only thing about MB is that he can't do anything really but break a lot of tackles. He can't beat DEs to the corner LBs walk him down every time.

TC: Carry should be raised a little bit really him and Felix should get a little increase in that. Maybe 3 points or so.

Marty B(Martellus Bennett): Should be an 80-81 speed that's all for him. J. Wit speed should be 79 where Martellus speed is now.

Roy Williams: Speed should be an 88.

Patrick Crayton: Route Running should be increased he runs great routes I don't know why its so low.

Ogletree: Added to the team he will make our roster has been a beast so far should be the fastest receiver on the team.

Defense:

Brady James: Can he get some respect on the game please he was 17th in the league in tackles with 116 1 behind Ray Lewis last season vs. Antonio Pierce who was tied for 41st with 95 but he is an 86 and Brady is a 82 or 84 give me a break. Stats are right here I don't lie I'm going to give you everything behind what I say: http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=TACKLES&conference=null&season=2008&seasonType=REG

DeMarcus Ware: You might as well make him a 99 overall that's about it.

Michael Hamiln: What's the deal with his speed 77!?!?!? That's slower then Brandon Jacobs again lol. How is a safety speed a 77 please increase that. That's disgraceful 80 should do.

Mike Jenkins vs Orlando: Speed for Orlando should be a 97 and Speed for Jenkins should remain the same. http://www.sportznutz.com/nfl/draft/2008/combine/defensive_backs.htm Scandrick ran .01 faster then DRC and you have DRC speed a 96 come on now EA.

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OK HERES THE BEST INFO YOUR GONNA GET FROM A TRUE COWBOY FAN...NOW I DONT KNOW WHAT THE WORLD IS GOIN ON BUT ROMO SHOULD BE AT LESS A 90...THE GUY MISSED 3 GAMES AND STILL HAD BETTER STATS THEN ALOT OF GUYS THAT PLAYED ALL YEAR...WHAT I NOTICED IS HIS DEEP BALL IS WAY OFF....RB'S....EVERYTHING IS COOL FOR NOW...BUT I SEE MAYBE BARBER COULD USE A POINT OR 2 ON THE SPEED...FB COOL...TE...MARTELLUS BENNET COULD USE ABOUT 2/3 POINTS FOR NOW...BUT HES LOOKIN LIKE HES ABOUT TO HAVE A BREAKOUT YEAR FROM ALL THE TALK AT CAMP...WELL SEE...OL....COLOMBO NEEDS ABOUT TWO POINTS ADDED TO HIS STATS..HES A FORMER FIRST ROUND PICK THAT GOT INJURED EARLY IN HIS CAREER BUT HAS BEEN SOLID ON THE RIGHT SIDE EVERY SINCE HES BEEN HEALTHY..ASK JAMIE DUKES OF NFL NETWORK...DL...YOU GUYS HAVE IGOR OLSHANSKY ABOUT RIGHT....BUT IF YOU COMPARE HIM AND MARCUS SPEARS CAREER STATS YOULL SEE THAT SPEARS STATS MATCH UP WITH OLSHASKY'S...PLUS SPEARS WAS A #1 PICK...EITHER BRING OLSHASKY'S STATS DOWN TO SPEARS OR SPEARS UP TO OLSHASKY'S....OMG...OLB...WHY WOULD DEMARCUS WARE NOT BE A 99 OVER ALL?...YALL GIVE EVERY OTHER ELITE PLAYER THERE JUST DO...MAKES YOU WONDER IF THE RATINGS SYSTEM IS FAIR...IM NOT SAYIN MAKE ANTHONY SPENCER A 90 SPEED OR NOTHIN..BUT HE SHOULD AT LESS BE A 80 SOMETHIN..THATS THE NORM ON AN OLB IN A 3-4 DEFENSE IS SPEED...AND IM NOT JUST TALKIN BOUT ON THE COWBOYS TEAM...ALL TEAMS THAT RUN THE 3-4 OLB'ERS SHOULD HAVE SPEED..IVE SEEN ALOT OF PEOPLE BRING THIS UP...MLB...BRADIE JAMES HAS GOT A RAW DEAL FOR THE PASS 2 YEARS AND ITS TIME TO MAKE GOOD ON THIS...THE MAN HAD THE MOST SACKS OF ANY MLB IN THE LEAGUE + A 100 + TACKLES...KIETH BROOKING IS ON THE DOWN SIDE OF HIS CAREER AND THE GAME SHOULD REFLECT THAT....DB'S...EVERYTHING IS GOOD FOR NOW...SENSABAUGH SHOULD BE AND 89 SPEED WITH GOOD COVERAGE SKILLS...

I HOPE I DIDNT TYPE ALL THIS FOR NOTHIN...SOMEBODY THATS GOT THE TIME SHOULD DO THE STATS PART OF MY POST...PEACE

GO COWBOYS!

Marion Barber III stat's went down considerably with him insterted as a starting RB. His avg per carry was only 3.7, when he got hurt he didn't play so it can't be blamed on injuries. If so make his injury rating higher.

A 3.7 yard avg. should have no speed, or acceleration near mid 80's.

Here it is T.J. Houshmanzadeh is boycotting the Madden 2010 game for his ratings suffering where he avgd only 9.6 per reception and says it was the system he played in, why is Barber III even an elite RB on Madden?

Yes he's strong, make him strong.

What NFL stat justifies Marion Barber III being an 88 OVR. He fumbled 7 times in 2008 shoudn't his carries be low?

http://www.nfl.com/players/marionbarber/profile?id=BAR059695

He had 90 less yards as a starter than he did as a backup in 34 carries and fumbled 4 more times.

All his numbers were down, yet why does he have an 88 OVR?

In Madden 2010, the ratings dept has Marion Barber III who rushed for only 885 yds as a starter at a 3.7 yds per carry avg and only 7 TD's with 7 fumbles right at or better than all these RB's:

RB Chris Johnson of the Titans. 1,228 4.9 avg 9 TD's
RB Larry Johnson of the Chiefs. 874 yds 4.5 avg 5TD's
RB Marshawn Lynch of the Bills. 1,036 yds. 4.1 avg. 8 TD's
RB Steve Slaton of the Texans 1,282 yds. 4.8 avg. 9 TD's.

Marion Barber III should be comparable to RB Jamal Lewis in ratings, slow, strong, & powerful, and north-south runner period.

Lewis 83 spd 78 agility 97 trucking 65 elusiveness.

ps3.og817 wrote:OK HERES THE BEST INFO YOUR GONNA GET FROM A TRUE COWBOY FAN...NOW I DONT KNOW WHAT THE WORLD IS GOIN ON BUT ROMO SHOULD BE AT LESS A 90...THE GUY MISSED 3 GAMES AND STILL HAD BETTER STATS THEN ALOT OF GUYS THAT PLAYED ALL YEAR...WHAT I NOTICED IS HIS DEEP BALL IS WAY OFF....RB'S....EVERYTHING IS COOL FOR NOW...BUT I SEE MAYBE BARBER COULD USE A POINT OR 2 ON THE SPEED...FB COOL...TE...MARTELLUS BENNET COULD USE ABOUT 2/3 POINTS FOR NOW...BUT HES LOOKIN LIKE HES ABOUT TO HAVE A BREAKOUT YEAR FROM ALL THE TALK AT CAMP...WELL SEE...OL....COLOMBO NEEDS ABOUT TWO POINTS ADDED TO HIS STATS..HES A FORMER FIRST ROUND PICK THAT GOT INJURED EARLY IN HIS CAREER BUT HAS BEEN SOLID ON THE RIGHT SIDE EVERY SINCE HES BEEN HEALTHY..ASK JAMIE DUKES OF NFL NETWORK...DL...YOU GUYS HAVE IGOR OLSHANSKY ABOUT RIGHT....BUT IF YOU COMPARE HIM AND MARCUS SPEARS CAREER STATS YOULL SEE THAT SPEARS STATS MATCH UP WITH OLSHASKY'S...PLUS SPEARS WAS A #1 PICK...EITHER BRING OLSHASKY'S STATS DOWN TO SPEARS OR SPEARS UP TO OLSHASKY'S....OMG...OLB...WHY WOULD DEMARCUS WARE NOT BE A 99 OVER ALL?...YALL GIVE EVERY OTHER ELITE PLAYER THERE JUST DO...MAKES YOU WONDER IF THE RATINGS SYSTEM IS FAIR...IM NOT SAYIN MAKE ANTHONY SPENCER A 90 SPEED OR NOTHIN..BUT HE SHOULD AT LESS BE A 80 SOMETHIN..THATS THE NORM ON AN OLB IN A 3-4 DEFENSE IS SPEED...AND IM NOT JUST TALKIN BOUT ON THE COWBOYS TEAM...ALL TEAMS THAT RUN THE 3-4 OLB'ERS SHOULD HAVE SPEED..IVE SEEN ALOT OF PEOPLE BRING THIS UP...MLB...BRADY JAMES HAS GOT A RAW DEAL FOR THE PASS 2 YEARS AND ITS TIME TO MAKE GOOD ON THIS...THE MAN HAD THE MOST SACKS OF ANY MLB IN THE LEAGUE + A 100 + TACKLES...KIETH BROOKINGS IS ON THE DOWN SIDE OF HIS CAREER AND THE GAME SHOULD REFLECT THAT....DB'S...EVERYTHING IS GOOD FOR NOW...SENSABAUGH SHOULD BE AND 89 SPEED WITH GOOD COVERAGE SKILLS...

I HOPE I DIDNT TYPE ALL THIS FOR NOTHIN...SOMEBODY THATS GOT THE TIME SHOULD DO THE STATS PART OF MY POST...PEACE

GO COWBOYS!

Way too many mispelled names in there for us to take you seriously. (i.e. BradIE James, Keith BROOKING, etc.)

Here's my take on the roster:

Kevin Ogletree should make the team, possibly over Stanback, and definitely over Manual Johnson. But he shouldn't be rated high. (There's always 1 player that Dallas fans fall in love with and make out to be the next big thing. One year it was Thomas Johnson, last year it was Danny Amendola, this year its Ogletree.)

Ware definitely should be a 99 OVR.

Hurd should be a tad higher. (Maybe 70)

Austin should be the same.

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:Marion Barber III stat's went down considerably with him insterted as a starting RB. His avg per carry was only 3.7, when he got hurt he didn't play so it can't be blamed on injuries. If so make his injury rating higher.

A 3.7 yard avg. should have no speed, or acceleration near mid 80's.

Here it is T.J. Houshmanzadeh is boycotting the Madden 2010 game for his ratings suffering where he avgd only 9.6 per reception and says it was the system he played in, why is Barber III even an elite RB on Madden?

Yes he's strong, make him strong.

What NFL stat justifies Marion Barber III being an 88 OVR. He fumbled 7 times in 2008 shoudn't his carries be low?

http://www.nfl.com/players/marionbarber/profile?id=BAR059695

He had 90 less yards as a starter than he did as a backup in 34 carries and fumbled 4 more times.

All his numbers were down, yet why does he have an 88 OVR?

In Madden 2010, the ratings dept has Marion Barber III who rushed for only 885 yds as a starter at a 3.7 yds per carry avg and only 7 TD's with 7 fumbles right at or better than all these RB's:

RB Chris Johnson of the Titans. 1,228 4.9 avg 9 TD's
RB Larry Johnson of the Chiefs. 874 yds 4.5 avg 5TD's
RB Marshawn Lynch of the Bills. 1,036 yds. 4.1 avg. 8 TD's
RB Steve Slaton of the Texans 1,282 yds. 4.8 avg. 9 TD's.

Marion Barber III should be comparable to RB Jamal Lewis in ratings, slow, strong, & powerful, and north-south runner period.

Lewis 83 spd 78 agility 97 trucking 65 elusiveness.

This is the best post I've ever read

Yes E.A. i couldnt have said it any better than my fellow Cowboy Fans.

Im sure some of the other teams threads are full of rants and cry out louds.

you can see the actual reasons and details of way they should be rated higher or what have you.

E.A. i hope you really take these statements in to serious consideration.

LETS GO COWBOYS FANS

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:Marion Barber III stat's went down considerably with him insterted as a starting RB. His avg per carry was only 3.7, when he got hurt he didn't play so it can't be blamed on injuries. If so make his injury rating higher.

A 3.7 yard avg. should have no speed, or acceleration near mid 80's.

Here it is T.J. Houshmanzadeh is boycotting the Madden 2010 game for his ratings suffering where he avgd only 9.6 per reception and says it was the system he played in, why is Barber III even an elite RB on Madden?

Yes he's strong, make him strong.

What NFL stat justifies Marion Barber III being an 88 OVR. He fumbled 7 times in 2008 shoudn't his carries be low?

http://www.nfl.com/players/marionbarber/profile?id=BAR059695

He had 90 less yards as a starter than he did as a backup in 34 carries and fumbled 4 more times.

All his numbers were down, yet why does he have an 88 OVR?

In Madden 2010, the ratings dept has Marion Barber III who rushed for only 885 yds as a starter at a 3.7 yds per carry avg and only 7 TD's with 7 fumbles right at or better than all these RB's:

RB Chris Johnson of the Titans. 1,228 4.9 avg 9 TD's
RB Larry Johnson of the Chiefs. 874 yds 4.5 avg 5TD's
RB Marshawn Lynch of the Bills. 1,036 yds. 4.1 avg. 8 TD's
RB Steve Slaton of the Texans 1,282 yds. 4.8 avg. 9 TD's.

Marion Barber III should be comparable to RB Jamal Lewis in ratings, slow, strong, & powerful, and north-south runner period.

Lewis 83 spd 78 agility 97 trucking 65 elusiveness.

Ok what justifies a lot of the ratings in Madden my dude you must be a skins fan cause yeah. An 88 isn't all that any more in Madden your so focused on overalls. Overall means nothing its about individual stats so what decrease his overall doesn't matter what matters is MBIII is a beast yeah he fell of last season but if you were a fan you would know he was battling a toe injury. If you where a fan you would know that if we where winning by a good amount in the forth they would rest him and let Felix and TC do work. But back to MBIII he does more then just run he is a good receiving back a good pass blocker and a smart player. So say what you want about him and moan and complain but at the end of the day MBIII is a beast and will prove it this season.

Add Ogletree to the roster, make his speed atleast 95. His overall should be between 69-71. Thats all I ask.

xbox.THE INFAMOUS DC wrote:

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:Marion Barber III stat's went down considerably with him insterted as a starting RB. His avg per carry was only 3.7, when he got hurt he didn't play so it can't be blamed on injuries. If so make his injury rating higher.

A 3.7 yard avg. should have no speed, or acceleration near mid 80's.

Here it is T.J. Houshmanzadeh is boycotting the Madden 2010 game for his ratings suffering where he avgd only 9.6 per reception and says it was the system he played in, why is Barber III even an elite RB on Madden?

Yes he's strong, make him strong.

What NFL stat justifies Marion Barber III being an 88 OVR. He fumbled 7 times in 2008 shoudn't his carries be low?

http://www.nfl.com/players/marionbarber/profile?id=BAR059695

He had 90 less yards as a starter than he did as a backup in 34 carries and fumbled 4 more times.

All his numbers were down, yet why does he have an 88 OVR?

In Madden 2010, the ratings dept has Marion Barber III who rushed for only 885 yds as a starter at a 3.7 yds per carry avg and only 7 TD's with 7 fumbles right at or better than all these RB's:

RB Chris Johnson of the Titans. 1,228 4.9 avg 9 TD's
RB Larry Johnson of the Chiefs. 874 yds 4.5 avg 5TD's
RB Marshawn Lynch of the Bills. 1,036 yds. 4.1 avg. 8 TD's
RB Steve Slaton of the Texans 1,282 yds. 4.8 avg. 9 TD's.

Marion Barber III should be comparable to RB Jamal Lewis in ratings, slow, strong, & powerful, and north-south runner period.

Lewis 83 spd 78 agility 97 trucking 65 elusiveness.

Ok what justifies a lot of the ratings in Madden my dude you must be a skins fan cause yeah. An 88 isn't all that any more in Madden your so focused on overalls. Overall means nothing its about individual stats so what decrease his overall doesn't matter what matters is MBIII is a beast yeah he fell of last season but if you were a fan you would know he was battling a toe injury. If you where a fan you would know that if we where winning by a good amount in the forth they would rest him and let Felix and TC do work. But back to MBIII he does more then just run he is a good receiving back a good pass blocker and a smart player. So say what you want about him and moan and complain but at the end of the day MBIII is a beast and will prove it this season.

First off I am an overall NFL fan, yes I am a Redskins fan but I've been doing rosters and ratings for 20 years, 17 or so years ago I sent EA a 9 page letter when they had ratings go up to 15 and spoke on how they should be done from a 0-100 scale, and mentioned the several attributes that should be rated, just a couple years after EA did it.

With that said, I've never been a homer.

Again, my question is...what justifies Marion Barber III being an 88 OVR when his stats and his overall game decreased in every aspect as a NFL starting RB.

Ratings are stats based, there is not 1 stat in 2 yrs of Barber's body of work that justifies him still having a 88 OVR.

The Cowboys and Raiders continue to be overrated every year.

What justified the Cowboys being a 96 OVR last game? They went 9-7.

All I know is that Miles Austin should be at least 95 speed. And please give Spencer, and Sensabaugh their speed back

Bradie James needs love 84-86 IMO . thanks

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