ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:What I do not undertand about the Redskins ratings is:

1. Shaun Suisham's longest FG's for the past 3 NFL seasons have been 52, and 50 yds.(twice), on Madden 10 he is only capable of nailing a 46-47 ydr with the meter all the way up and no wind. I understand he wasn't accurate last year and most of that was due to a terrible holder which is why P Hunter Smith was signed.

2. RB Clinton Portis only fumbled 3 times last season in 342 carries, which was more carries than he had in 2007 when he fumbled 6 times, why is his carries still in the 80's? He averaged a fumble every 110 carries. In 2006 he didn't fumble at all, and in 2005 he only fumbled 3 times in 352 carries. What is the deal? He had 1 bad year. http://www.nfl.com/players/clintonportis/profile?id=POR792942

3. Why did Santana Moss' speed go down 1 tick to a 96? To a man he is arguably the fastest WR in the NFL, he has burned Terence Newman in a foot race. His acceleration should definitely be a 99. Santana Moss' OVR rating should be at least a 90, he avg the same per catch 13.2 avg as 2007 when he had a 97 in speed, not to mention he had more receptions and more receiving yds than 2007 when his rating was a 89 OVR. He also scored 3 more TD's than 2007. And he only fumbled 1 time with more production than 2007. What gives? http://www.nfl.com/players/santanamoss/profile?id=MOS717844

4. Why is Stephon Heyer's pass blocking footwork so poor when that is his strength as a OT? That's why he beat out Jansen and got him cut.

5. I do not understand why Malcolm Kelly lost that much speed between '09 and 10? An 82 in speed? Do they really think Kelly has TE speed? Also why did his rating suffer so much when he and Devin Thomas have always been comparable in rating? I can understand lower injury rating because he had a bad knee, but skill set-wise come on now.

6. Isn't Chris Cooley obviously a top 4 TE now? He had more receptions than Witten last year. Witten is a 97 OVR but Cooley is only a 92 OVR, what gives?

7. I hope if WR Marko Mitchell makes the team he is created with the speed, leaping ability, and hands he has. Not to mention if KR/RB Anthony Alridge makes the team this dude has NFL elite speed, he's a 4.2 sprinter, all these raider players are made incredibly fast so please give him his speed. Same with RB Marcus Mason, he is obviously faster than Betts and Cartwright, can catch and block, led the NFL in preseason rushing last year but got cut.

8. Jason Campbell has improved his comp%, Passing Yds, QB rating, and he has lowered his INT%, and increased his avg per carry every year as a Redskins starter. He also completed 62% of his passes and had the LOWEST INT% in the NFL, why in the world is his arm weaker than 2007 (88 THP) it was a 91 THP on '09, why is his accuracy so low in every phase of passing? Campbell has one of the strongest arms in the NFL. His arm should at the very least be a 93 in THP. http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235
I want you to look at all the QB's with better accuracy ratings than Jason Campbell, there are several "rookie" QB's with better accuracy than him. Not to mention Daunte Culpepper has a 74 in SHA, Campbell has a 77, so now he's comparable to a QB who was signed off the street?


What I don't understand is Dallas (9-7) was 1 game better than the Redskins (8-
and they are an 85 OVR, even though they lost their best playmaker in T.O., where as the Redskins who improved in the offseason are a mere 79 OVR?

Also in the game intro, why isn't the Redskins defense 3 bars in run defense? They were 4th in defense overall in the NFL, 8th against the run, AND added Haynesworth.

ps3.bert69 wrote:

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:What I do not undertand about the Redskins ratings is:

1. Shaun Suisham's longest FG's for the past 3 NFL seasons have been 52, and 50 yds.(twice), on Madden 10 he is only capable of nailing a 46-47 ydr with the meter all the way up and no wind. I understand he wasn't accurate last year and most of that was due to a terrible holder which is why P Hunter Smith was signed.

2. RB Clinton Portis only fumbled 3 times last season in 342 carries, which was more carries than he had in 2007 when he fumbled 6 times, why is his carries still in the 80's? He averaged a fumble every 110 carries. In 2006 he didn't fumble at all, and in 2005 he only fumbled 3 times in 352 carries. What is the deal? He had 1 bad year. http://www.nfl.com/players/clintonportis/profile?id=POR792942

3. Why did Santana Moss' speed go down 1 tick to a 96? To a man he is arguably the fastest WR in the NFL, he has burned Terence Newman in a foot race. His acceleration should definitely be a 99. Santana Moss' OVR rating should be at least a 90, he avg the same per catch 13.2 avg as 2007 when he had a 97 in speed, not to mention he had more receptions and more receiving yds than 2007 when his rating was a 89 OVR. He also scored 3 more TD's than 2007. And he only fumbled 1 time with more production than 2007. What gives? http://www.nfl.com/players/santanamoss/profile?id=MOS717844

4. Why is Stephon Heyer's pass blocking footwork so poor when that is his strength as a OT? That's why he beat out Jansen and got him cut.

5. I do not understand why Malcolm Kelly lost that much speed between '09 and 10? An 82 in speed? Do they really think Kelly has TE speed? Also why did his rating suffer so much when he and Devin Thomas have always been comparable in rating? I can understand lower injury rating because he had a bad knee, but skill set-wise come on now.

6. Isn't Chris Cooley obviously a top 4 TE now? He had more receptions than Witten last year. Witten is a 97 OVR but Cooley is only a 92 OVR, what gives?

7. I hope if WR Marko Mitchell makes the team he is created with the speed, leaping ability, and hands he has. Not to mention if KR/RB Anthony Alridge makes the team this dude has NFL elite speed, he's a 4.2 sprinter, all these raider players are made incredibly fast so please give him his speed. Same with RB Marcus Mason, he is obviously faster than Betts and Cartwright, can catch and block, led the NFL in preseason rushing last year but got cut.

8. Jason Campbell has improved his comp%, Passing Yds, QB rating, and he has lowered his INT%, and increased his avg per carry every year as a Redskins starter. He also completed 62% of his passes and had the LOWEST INT% in the NFL, why in the world is his arm weaker than 2007 (88 THP) it was a 91 THP on '09, why is his accuracy so low in every phase of passing? Campbell has one of the strongest arms in the NFL. His arm should at the very least be a 93 in THP. http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235
I want you to look at all the QB's with better accuracy ratings than Jason Campbell, there are several "rookie" QB's with better accuracy than him. Not to mention Daunte Culpepper has a 74 in SHA, Campbell has a 77, so now he's comparable to a QB who was signed off the street?


What I don't understand is Dallas (9-7) was 1 game better than the Redskins (8-
and they are an 85 OVR, even though they lost their best playmaker in T.O., where as the Redskins who improved in the offseason are a mere 79 OVR?

Also in the game intro, why isn't the Redskins defense 3 bars in run defense? They were 4th in defense overall in the NFL, 8th against the run, AND added Haynesworth.

Before you go overboard TNew was trying to play with a sports hernia in that game. Against a healthy Newman in Man coverage he does'nt beat Newman guaranteed. Not taking anything away from Moss cuz he is fast but complaining about a 1 point drop in speed is like wiping before you poop. It does'nt make any sense.

cem_ea_id.johncnet23 wrote:Disclaimer:the following ratings are applicable to the ps2 version of madden 10

Chris Horton
His tackling ability should be increased from 70 to 75. His speed should increase from 84 to 85. His awareness should increase from 66 to 71. His jump should increase from 82 to 85. To justify these ratings you should first realize that he's considered a hard-hitting, in the box safety for the Redskins. In his first year, he was able to prove his tackling ability by amassing 76 total tackles, 57 solo. Compare those stats to SS Adrian Wilson who had 75 total tackles, 60 that were solo. He also ran a 4.51 at the NFL combine where Wilson ran a 4.52 (he has 85 spd). To prove his ability to jump, against Dallas he stepped in front of a pass to Sam Hurd who's 6' 2" and showed enough vertical to go up and snatch the ball in the air. Also, Wilson, who put up comparable numbers to Horton in '08, has a tackling ability of 88 while Horton's is only 70. Horton who proved he was a solid tackler deserves to have this modest increase by five points.


Derrick Dockery
His pass-blocking should be increased from 76 to 83, his acceleration should be increased from 59-65, and his awareness bumped up from 78 to 81. Although he allowed 8.25 sacks and was accountable for five penalties, all-pro guard Alan Faneca had similar stats in allowing 7 sacks and accountable for three penalties. Faneca's PBK is rated at 90. Additionally, the prior year Dockery only allowed 1.5 sacks and accountable for five penalties while Faneca accounted for three penalties and 6.25 sacks. Why should Faneca's rating remain as high as it is if Dockery, who has similar stats be penalized? The reason for Dockery's increase in acceleration is due to the system he plays in. He is part of Washington's zone blocking scheme is requires athletically gifted, quick off the initial snap linemen. If you recall back in '06 when he was first introduced to it in D.C. helped pave way for a rushing attack that ranked fourth in the NFL, gaining 138.5 yards per game. The modest increase in awareness is due to the consistent play he has provided as a seven year veteran.


Devin Thomas
His catch should increase from 75 to 78 and his awareness from 46 to 60. He is slated to push Antwaan Randle El for the starting split end and has been receiving praise from the coaching staff. Also, Marques Hagans, who has 60 awr, 77 catch, has done next to nothing in the NFL amassing only 9 catches for 108 yards while Thomas has had 15 recs for 120 yards.

*Marques Hagans is no longer on the Redskins roster. The only receivers should be in this order:

1) Santana Moss
2) Antwaan Randle El
3) Devin Thomas
4) Malcolm Kelly
5) Marko Mitchell
(D.J. Hackett is not expected to make the roster)

*Please fix LT backup, he has no name and has non-realistic stats for a linemen.

ps3.KRE8isKevin wrote:Why is Clinton Portis' speed only a 90? he isn't breaking away because of smallish WR's such as Moss and Randle-El blocking downfield.

Portis ran a 4.26 in 2006, he even complained that he has been too slow on Madden.

Here's the link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Portis

You can also see the infamous youtube video where he and Laron Landry raced to a tie basically after a redskins practice last season in 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZVYYPCGIPA

Portis increased his avg. per carry from 3.9 to 4.3 but yet went down in speed, agility, and acceleration.
He led the NFL in rushing all the way to November 23, 2008, but yet look at Michael Turner & Adrian Peterson's ratings.

Soon as the Redskins OL suffered injuries madden roster ratings people couldn't wait to take away from Portis' ratings.

xbox.Kjataa wrote:Chris Horton's 73 rating is pretty appalling. He was easily one of the best young Safeties in the league and a huge shock seeing as he was a 7th round pick. 72 Tackles, 3INT 1FR and he gets a 73? He was such a huge playmaker in his first couple games that teams quickly stopped throwing to his areas. On top of being a tremendous playmaker, he is known for being a great tackler, yet Reed Doughty has higher tackling. Horton was a great tackler at UCLA and again last year, the guy is great in both man and zone coverage and he baited QBs into thinking he had been beat and made incredible plays on the ball after they foolishly threw into his area. Horton needs to be at least a 78 if not 80+. People are already talking about how the Landry/Horton combo could quickly become one of the best Safety tandems in the NFL.

Fred Smoot is a great tackler and I have no clue why his STR and Tackle are so low. He has always been a solid tackling CB and has definitely shown it this preseason as well.

Orakpo has been a complete beast and completely unblockable so far in the preseason. He has thrown OTs around like rag dolls and needs boosts to STR and his Pass rushing skills. He should be an 80 or so at least, even if his Cov skills aren't amazing yet.

Fred Davis is a speedy TE and needs to be around 79-80 speed. His awareness and route running need work but he shouldn't lose speed because he has been productive yet.

Malcolm Kelly has great hands and his Catch should be higher then D.Thomas's. Kelly has had lapses in route running and such but his catching ability is great.

Jason Campell needs to be boosted to around 80. I'm not sure why he has to do to get a little respect. His THP is definitely higher then 88 and should be 90 at least. He has been learning a new offense every year for 7 years but his QB skills are not as bad as he is rated. He threw the least INTs of anyone last year. I understand not pushing his rating too far as he hasn't been great but there is no reason Stafford should be rated higher, especially since Stafford has had a pretty bad preseason.

Ethan Albright is the best LS in the league but there is no reason to have him as a 67 Guard... It would be nice if you actually put Clark, Riley or Batiste in there for our backup OG/T. Heyer needs to be a better pass blocker then run locker, it's pretty common knowledge. Jeremy Jarmon has shown he is NFL ready and needs a nice boost. HB Blades should be 62-63 or so as he was a solid fill in last year. A.Carter and P.Daniels should probably get some small increases as they have both looked great so far alongside Haynesworth. Especially Daniels, he has shown he is back in shape and looking great.