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bulld0gs35
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the best car upgraded or not is the ferrari fxx without a doubt.
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Insurgents
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Zonda at Nordschliefe (by zx12rcr): 5:56.760 (note best lap at wrecord.com is 5:52.577):
Those times really say it all, absolutely phenomenal. I mean 5.52? GTFO of here. Zonda is fastest and hardest to handle, exactly how it should be. Personally I'm generally fastest with the Lambo, and I've noticed after the patch it's up there with the Zonda more often (on PS3). I can handle the Zonda alright, but those videos shows what it's actually capable of. Wow.
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Destinkeys
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cem_ea_id.bulld0gs35 wrote:the best car upgraded or not is the ferrari fxx without a doubt. 
When it posts a world record, that 'fact' MIGHT be true. Until then, lap times don't lie...
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B4DBoY x GTR
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Speaking without bias, it would have to be the Zonda R. Yes ive got a nicely tuned Murci but you can't match the Zonda R for overall balance between speed and handling.
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teeheeaid
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DBR9 - they definitely saved the best car for last at level 50. If this car was tunable without modding I think you'd see it a lot closer to the top time ranks, the default setup has massively heavy downforce.
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Destinkeys
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There's hardly a single course out there where the lap time (at least, the legitimate lap time!) isn't owned by either the LP640 or the ZondaR. MC12 at Dakota Tri-Oval, and that's just about IT...
Personal preference is one thing, but you can rest assured that IF the really fast drivers could find something faster, they WOULD use it.
Actually, I am VERY pleased that none of he DLC cars can beat the basic lap leaders. You can't IMAGINE the howls of protest from those unable to even BUY a car as competitive! Think that the whiners are bad NOW?  Just think what would happen if the FXX actually WAS the best car in the game..!
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B4DBoY x GTR
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We wouldn't give a rat's @ss whether the FXX was the best car ingame or not. We have plenty of other cars that satisfy the top-end 'need for speed' ingame just fine - Zonda R, LP640, DBR9, Vette etc... the only reason we'd want that car is because its a friggin ferrari, and a fast one at that... Sure it's a bonus but even if you said it was as fast as a low-range tier 4 car my desire to have that car ingame wouldn't increase or decrease at all; the badge is the reason people are screaming about having been left out..
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Destinkeys
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Hate to burst your bubble, but it ISN'T a Ferrari... It's a graphic skin on a piece of software. It is no more accurate to how the real thing handles than any other car in the game. You aren't being denied the opportunity to drive a Ferrari. You are being denied the opportunity to drive yet another skin on the same physics platform as all the other cars. And a slower one at that.
Maybe you want to cruise around and pick up chicks, but in the RACING world, any driver worth his salt would rather drive a POS that was the fastest car than a Ferrari that WASN'T... I don't drive the LP540-6 at 14.0 because I'm a Lambo fan. I drive it because it's the fastest car...
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B4DBoY x GTR
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Who's talking about real and fake here? Of-course i know its not real lol its a friggin video game. But it's Ferrari FXX, in an NFS game that would suit a car like the FXX better than any other NFS game. And that goes for all ferraris. Nuff said..
And besides, most people do not restrict themselves in driving only the fastest car in the game or in each class. We all like to try different cars for fun, and driving an FXX whether or not it is the best car in the game would be fun, just like driving a Mclaren F1 or a Carrera GT is fun to drive even though they are not the fastest cars in the game. Just the excitement of having ferraris to drive in NFS is enough of a reason to want one.. as i said, whether or not it was the fastest car or not is a completely different story.
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Destinkeys
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Well, it takes all kinds, I guess. Me, I'm a bit more concerned with HOW I'm driving, rather than WHAT. But I guess others feel differently. BTW, I don't drive the LP540 exclusively. In fact, I'm always up for Manufacturer races in preference to Mixed, but they are hard to find, online. Driver vs. driver, rather than car vs. car...
At 14.0 I use the LP540, SpecV GTR, and Camaro, all very different, all great fun. But I don't drive ANY of them because of the badge. Just the way they drive in the game. I even pretty much gave up on watching replays (the only time you really get to see your car, anyway) as I hardly play offline any more...
I see your point, but on the whole, I hate to see how some people have allowed the issue of certain cars just not being available to ruin the game for them. Sometimes I wonder if we would all be a happier bunch if there were NO DLC whatsoever! Me, I don't CARE that I can't have the Ferrari's, and if I couldn't have the Exotics, the only thing I'd miss is the new courses. I would MUCH rather be racing around a new track in an older car, than going round the same old same old in a new car. But that's just me...
The thing I REALLY want to see has nothing to do with cars, or even tracks, for that matter. As I've said many times in the past, what's the POINT of a new car or track, if some dweeb in a Works LP640 is ALLOWED to bash you simply for the fun of it, or railride round corners, cut whole sections of track, bash obstacles onto the course that never get removed, etc., etc..? It's the GAME itself that needs improving, not the skin of the car you drive around it in...
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teeheeaid
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I think EA handled the PC DLC issue badly and in a way that was never really explained all that well. But - the only reason you would really feel hard-done-by is if you aren't modding. If you just take a browse through wikipedia and look at - for example - how many different kinds of cars the audi umbrella makes, and how similar the parts are between them, and how many of those parts are attached to cars in shift. There's a lot more cars in Shift already than you see in the menus, even before you get to importing new 3d models.
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Destinkeys
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cem_ea_id.teeheeaid wrote:I think EA handled the PC DLC issue badly and in a way that was never really explained all that well. But - the only reason you would really feel hard-done-by is if you aren't modding.
I think EA explained it OK, it's just that no-one wanted to HEAR the explanation. They simply wanted the DLC, and nothing was going to change that. I don't honestly think anyone would have accepted ANY explanation at all...!
But the given explanation of insufficient time to add the secure delivery of protected content (as rushed to the shelves in a pretty poor state to start with as it was), and the tacit realization of the rampant piracy problem, is all the explanation anyone really needs, isn't it? Why look for some deeper, darker mystery, when the facts fit the explanation pretty neatly...
And you are right (and one of the few to admit it)... only those not modding have any reason to feel left out, and that is by their own choice, not EA's imposition.
Why not look on the positive side, instead, and just think of the DLC as some kind of sop tossed to us poor console users, to make up for the fact that we can't do mods at all?
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Insurgents
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the best car upgraded or not is the ferrari fxx without a doubt.
I was just having a look over the nfsunlimited leaderboards and am now extremely concerned that there appears to be at least some truth in this statement. Obviously I am just talking in regards to how fast it is, as the term 'best' is subjective and entirely dependent on personal opinion as already discussed. I know the nfsunlimited leaderboards do not cover everyone, but a few of the fastest players from PS3 are on there and the fxx (and hence xbox players) now almost exclusively hold the fastest times. I am now getting angry. I then proceeded to check NFS stats http://nfsstats.vvvgamer.com/ and sure enough, have a look at what car is now ranked number 1.
You can't IMAGINE the howls of protest from those unable to even BUY a car as competitive! Think that the whiners are bad NOW? Just think what would happen if the FXX actually WAS the best car in the game..!
I'm gonna start the howls! Someone please prove I'm wrong about this.
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Grnkjr0
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You are not wrong about this - it seems that the Ferrari FXX is even a lot faster than the Zonda R and LP640. At Willow Spring GP the fastest Zonda R time is a very good 1.06.870 but a lot of players have beaten that time using the Ferrari FFX and now the fastest lap time is an incredible 1.04.984 - that just about says it all.
No doubt the PC players are mad now - myself included. Makes me remember Pro Street where you missed out on the F1 unless you knew how to get it.
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Destinkeys
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Not sure those stats mean anything at all... The Nissan 350Z in 5th place?
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