Marino was good but so is Brees at this point.
Hes always been a pretty good quarterback.
who cares if hes 30. wasnt peyton like 31 when he won his first superbowl?

ps3.XxPATRIOTS12xX wrote:Marino was good but so is Brees at this point.
Hes always been a pretty good quarterback.
who cares if hes 30. wasnt peyton like 31 when he won his first superbowl?

And brady was 24 when he won his first.

ps3.XxPATRIOTS12xX wrote:Marino was good but so is Brees at this point.
Hes always been a pretty good quarterback.
who cares if hes 30. wasnt peyton like 31 when he won his first superbowl?

Yeah, but Peyton in his ENTIRE career has only had TWO seasons where he finished under 10 wins. Brees...umm...so far TWO seasons where he's had 10+ wins.

There are many QB's that are out there who can put up the stats, but it's the ones that can consistently put up the W's as well that are the TRUE great ones.

Brees puts up nice Fantasy Football numbers, but from a football standpoint....it doesn't mean anything unless you win games as well.

xbox.ubiquinon wrote:

ps3.XxPATRIOTS12xX wrote:Marino was good but so is Brees at this point.
Hes always been a pretty good quarterback.
who cares if hes 30. wasnt peyton like 31 when he won his first superbowl?

Yeah, but Peyton in his ENTIRE career has only had TWO seasons where he finished under 10 wins. Brees...umm...so far TWO seasons where he's had 10+ wins.

There are many QB's that are out there who can put up the stats, but it's the ones that can consistently put up the W's as well that are the TRUE great ones.

Brees puts up nice Fantasy Football numbers, but from a football standpoint....it doesn't mean anything unless you win games as well.

LOL he's obviously in the best offense of all time when he's scoring lights off in fantasy

MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.

This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.

People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL

ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:

MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.

This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.

People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL

again, if you didn't see... Peyton didn't have a D either (early on) and he's ONLY had TWO season where he finished w/ less than 10 wins. In fact, he had back to back 10+ wins in his 2nd and 3rd year already. His last season to finish w/ less than 10+ wins was in 2001!

When was Brees last back to back 10+ win season? ....oh yeah, that's right---he hasn't had one.

ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:

MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.

This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.

People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL

manning had a terrible D and that didn't stop his team from winning... Brady's D in 01 wasn't exactly the best either and he still won them games... even if it isn't Brees fault, he still should be scoring points consistently if he is so good.

cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:

ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:

MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.

This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.

People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL

again, if you didn't see... Peyton didn't have a D either (early on) and he's ONLY had TWO season where he finished w/ less than 10 wins. In fact, he had back to back 10+ wins in his 2nd and 3rd year already. His last season to finish w/ less than 10+ wins was in 2001!

When was Brees last back to back 10+ win season? ....oh yeah, that's right---he hasn't had one.

Peyton has also had a superior running game for most of his career (until lately), something Brees hasnt had until this year. And sadly...the Saints D's of previous years were worse than the Colts when Manning entered the league.

Again, those 2 posts^ basically end the duscussion. Brees hasnt had a SB caliber team...

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ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:

cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:

ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:

MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.

This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.

People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL

again, if you didn't see... Peyton didn't have a D either (early on) and he's ONLY had TWO season where he finished w/ less than 10 wins. In fact, he had back to back 10+ wins in his 2nd and 3rd year already. His last season to finish w/ less than 10+ wins was in 2001!

When was Brees last back to back 10+ win season? ....oh yeah, that's right---he hasn't had one.

Peyton has also had a superior running game for most of his career (until lately), something Brees hasnt had until this year. And sadly...the Saints D's of previous years were worse than the Colts when Manning entered the league.

Again, those 2 posts^ basically end the duscussion. Brees hasnt had a SB caliber team...

lmao! L.T. in his PRIME! or did you forget?

ps: Drew Brees last two years in SD (when he started to be the "DREW BREES") had LT, Gates, GREAT OL, and a decent enough D. Still, he didn't finish w/ back to back 10+ win seasons.

Also the lack of running game and defense didn't stop the cardinals from going to the superbowl last year

Look at the offensive weapons Manning has had his entire career compared to the ones Manning has had.

xbox.McNicholas S wrote:Look at the offensive weapons Manning has had his entire career compared to the ones Manning has had.

OH MA GAD THER THE SAME

cem_ea_id.tombradykiksars wrote:

xbox.McNicholas S wrote:Look at the offensive weapons Manning has had his entire career compared to the ones Manning has had.

OH MA GAD THER THE SAME

Only in the eyes of the delusional.

cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:

ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:

cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:

ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:

MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.

This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.

People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL

again, if you didn't see... Peyton didn't have a D either (early on) and he's ONLY had TWO season where he finished w/ less than 10 wins. In fact, he had back to back 10+ wins in his 2nd and 3rd year already. His last season to finish w/ less than 10+ wins was in 2001!

When was Brees last back to back 10+ win season? ....oh yeah, that's right---he hasn't had one.

Peyton has also had a superior running game for most of his career (until lately), something Brees hasnt had until this year. And sadly...the Saints D's of previous years were worse than the Colts when Manning entered the league.

Again, those 2 posts^ basically end the duscussion. Brees hasnt had a SB caliber team...

lmao! L.T. in his PRIME! or did you forget?

Sorry, Im only talking about his years in NO...way back then Brees wasnt even that great himself. Discussions over...