cem_ea_id.TheBlackHole21 wrote:

MAIN.EnterSandman2828 wrote:

cem_ea_id.TheBlackHole21 wrote:lol what? I don't remember that....what would be your point anyway? I read the post. Dawkins said Mcnabb doesn't have Wrs and I said he didn't have any in Philly either.

I was sure it was in our discussion about the impact of Campbell on the Raiders but whatever. My point was that if you have read the posts, you would have realized that I already brought up your point and Dawkins had already explained his point.

I don't think so dude....Anyway I don't care what you posted really....I just made a comment about what I thought. Just because Dawk explained the D and Te situation doesn't change my position. Mcnabb didn't have Wr's in Philly but he will still put up numbers with the Skins Wrs. Thats my point......Dawkins has a different view....usually we all do.

McNabb played on a team that always passed wayy more than they ran. He had arguably the best receiving RB in the game. A very good te in Celek. And explosive WR's like Jackson who is a top 10 receiver in the league, and Maclin. I really fail to see how he didn't have any receivers on the Eagles. Now he goes to a team with no receiving RB's, a good TE, and one older receiver on the decline with a bunch of unprovens. I think it's more than fair to say that he had a much better supporting cast in Philly, plus a better o-line to protect him.

I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

Wait a minute this isn't the bold predictions thread.

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

Umm GB is one of the best teams in the NFL. Some people are even predicting a GB/MIN NFC Championship.

No doubt that DET/CHI have improved over the off season but they won't touch GB or MIN.

MAIN.stokeyokes83 wrote:

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

Wait a minute this isn't the bold predictions thread.

true but this is the what last team could have the biggest turn around and 2nd place would be a big turnaround for Detroit.

cem_ea_id.Asomugha wrote:

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

Umm GB is one of the best teams in the NFL. Some people are even predicting a GB/MIN NFC Championship.

No doubt that DET/CHI have improved over the off season but they won't touch GB or MIN.

green bay cant protect their qb and their defense is atrocious

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

cem_ea_id.Asomugha wrote:

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

Umm GB is one of the best teams in the NFL. Some people are even predicting a GB/MIN NFC Championship.

No doubt that DET/CHI have improved over the off season but they won't touch GB or MIN.

green bay cant protect their qb and their defense is atrocious

for the first 5 weeks, that was true. When they re-signed Tauscher, he and Clifton solidified our line making it one of the better lines the next 12 weeks.

And the atrocious defense? Maybe against 'Zona, but we had one of the best D's in the league last season, i'll say top 5 again this season. We got exploited in the secondary by Pitt and Zona, and have taken some measures this offseason to counter that. I don't see GB landing anywhere below 2 in the nfc-n barring ridiculous injuries.

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

cem_ea_id.Asomugha wrote:

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

Umm GB is one of the best teams in the NFL. Some people are even predicting a GB/MIN NFC Championship.

No doubt that DET/CHI have improved over the off season but they won't touch GB or MIN.

green bay cant protect their qb and their defense is atrocious

What are you talking about? They had the 12th ranked passing defense and 8th ranked rushing defense.. how is that "atrocious"?

And did you watch the final 6 games of the year? Packers O Line did a pretty decent job. Plus they drafted a OT in the first round who was projected as the 2nd best tackle in the draft behind Okung by 90% of all analysts.

Matt Cassel is gonna show his worth, and put the cheifs in the playoffs.

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:Tampa Bay is in too tough of a division for me to consider them. They will have no less than 4, and possibly 5 or 6 losses in the division alone.

this is the history
2002 panthers 7-9 2003 11-5 super bowl birth
2003 falcons 5-11 2004 11-5 NFC conference championship game birth
2004 buccaneers 5-11 2005 11-5 wild card birth
2005 saints 3-13 2006 10-6 NFC championship game birth
2006 buccaneers 4-12 2007 9-7 wild card birth
2007 falcons 4-12 2008 11-5 wild card birth
2008 saints 8-8 2009 13-3 super bowl champions

Why? I know lol. Still doesnt mean Tampa is gonna win the division next year. I give them about a 2% chance...

ps3.JermikeHoncho wrote:

cem_ea_id.TheBlackHole21 wrote:

MAIN.EnterSandman2828 wrote:

cem_ea_id.TheBlackHole21 wrote:lol what? I don't remember that....what would be your point anyway? I read the post. Dawkins said Mcnabb doesn't have Wrs and I said he didn't have any in Philly either.

I was sure it was in our discussion about the impact of Campbell on the Raiders but whatever. My point was that if you have read the posts, you would have realized that I already brought up your point and Dawkins had already explained his point.

I don't think so dude....Anyway I don't care what you posted really....I just made a comment about what I thought. Just because Dawk explained the D and Te situation doesn't change my position. Mcnabb didn't have Wr's in Philly but he will still put up numbers with the Skins Wrs. Thats my point......Dawkins has a different view....usually we all do.

McNabb played on a team that always passed wayy more than they ran. He had arguably the best receiving RB in the game. A very good te in Celek. And explosive WR's like Jackson who is a top 10 receiver in the league, and Maclin. I really fail to see how he didn't have any receivers on the Eagles. Now he goes to a team with no receiving RB's, a good TE, and one older receiver on the decline with a bunch of unprovens. I think it's more than fair to say that he had a much better supporting cast in Philly, plus a better o-line to protect him.

I'm talking about for his career. He had just gotten Jackson and Maclin. He didn't have much to work with over his Eagles time.

ps3.JermikeHoncho wrote:

cem_ea_id.TheBlackHole21 wrote:

MAIN.EnterSandman2828 wrote:

cem_ea_id.TheBlackHole21 wrote:lol what? I don't remember that....what would be your point anyway? I read the post. Dawkins said Mcnabb doesn't have Wrs and I said he didn't have any in Philly either.

I was sure it was in our discussion about the impact of Campbell on the Raiders but whatever. My point was that if you have read the posts, you would have realized that I already brought up your point and Dawkins had already explained his point.

I don't think so dude....Anyway I don't care what you posted really....I just made a comment about what I thought. Just because Dawk explained the D and Te situation doesn't change my position. Mcnabb didn't have Wr's in Philly but he will still put up numbers with the Skins Wrs. Thats my point......Dawkins has a different view....usually we all do.

McNabb played on a team that always passed wayy more than they ran. He had arguably the best receiving RB in the game. A very good te in Celek. And explosive WR's like Jackson who is a top 10 receiver in the league, and Maclin. I really fail to see how he didn't have any receivers on the Eagles. Now he goes to a team with no receiving RB's, a good TE, and one older receiver on the decline with a bunch of unprovens. I think it's more than fair to say that he had a much better supporting cast in Philly, plus a better o-line to protect him.

mcnabb has been only playing for 3 years

MAIN.stokeyokes83 wrote:

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

cem_ea_id.Asomugha wrote:

cem_ea_id.princewookiee wrote:

xbox.TUBBSthezombie wrote:I think Detroit is a more complete team. Stafford is clearly a great leader in the making and a good QB, i love their RB situation and the killer trio of Burleson, Calvin, and Pettigrew. the only big hole i see is the ILB issue. losing Foote is a major loss to that Defense. Spievey in my opinion could be a darkhorse candidate for DROY.

Detroit will finish 2nd behind the vikings

Umm GB is one of the best teams in the NFL. Some people are even predicting a GB/MIN NFC Championship.

No doubt that DET/CHI have improved over the off season but they won't touch GB or MIN.

green bay cant protect their qb and their defense is atrocious

for the first 5 weeks, that was true. When they re-signed Tauscher, he and Clifton solidified our line making it one of the better lines the next 12 weeks.

And the atrocious defense? Maybe against 'Zona, but we had one of the best D's in the league last season, i'll say top 5 again this season. We got exploited in the secondary by Pitt and Zona, and have taken some measures this offseason to counter that. I don't see GB landing anywhere below 2 in the nfc-n barring ridiculous injuries.

stats are just stats there front 7 is one of the best in the NFL. They didn't get a corner opposite woodson and AL Harris isnt what he used to be and a safety opposite nick Collins

This is the lions we are talking about... The Bears are even better than that scrub team.