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Cottus-Cuhteena...

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Man is this gonna be an EPIC rant...

First part, is the server-side... I'm seeing firsthand and hearing through in-game chatter some really strange stuff going on. Here's some, that seem to be occuring reasonably regularly as of late...

Players just drop dead as a suicide. No grenade... no out-of-bounds... just... suicide
Best case I've seen is seeing a squad member dying in the roof of a building right next to me. No windows, and well away from the stairs, so it couldn't be a shot. It couldn't be a grenade either because I took no damage.

People are suicide-killing enemies
No idea. But it's happened a few times in the last week.

Shotgun is worse than ever
Good old shotgun blasts are causing no damage sometimes. Seems to occur when there's a visual glitch when I aim, shoot, and the screen jumps from no-aim to aim to no-aim, with no reload animation.

Lag is worse than ever
Not only am I cursing into my mic because I can't kill anyone... but it seems it not the only one. I know my ping isn't the best (Aussie player but with high-end open NAT ADSL2), but playing this game so much, I've definitely seen it get harder to kill people. Myself and others (even US-based ones) kill we can even be killed before the enemy has even raised their weapon. Amazingly, it seems the players with high form rank (say 1-5) are the ones who seem to be the culprits.

Now, onto player-driven stuff that's causing the game to be less exciting than it was...

Everyone's a Form Rank Wh0re
It seems the higher the rank, the bigger the wh0re. Since Form Rank is simply recent Kills vs. Deaths ratio, I'm finding most (say 90%) high ranked players are total douchebags. Breakdown by class....

Recon: The biggest Form Rank wh0re of all. They get an easy job, sitting in the bushes from a distance, killing tanks with the most unfairly unbalanced weapon in the game. They all think their Snipers. But they're Recon! So few of them run around a actively place Motion Sensor to benefit the team... instead they place those Sensors in their position away from the action so they don't get tagged.

Oh yes, tags... how many times do we see a Recon get blown away trying to knife when the smarter thing would've been to pull out the handgun??

Support: Here's a tip. Drop medkits... not just one for yourself, or one when I'm attempting to block your view for 2 mins while on >20 health. Spawn, find u spot, and drop a bunch of em.

Here's another tip. Fix Vehicles, and not just your own.

Specialist: You guys have the best weapon against helicopters, and one of the best against Tanks. Use those transponders and hey.. you'll die less!

Assault, Demolition... hmm.. no complaints!

However...

Not class-limited...

Seeing higher rank players knife each other to get the Howitzer, Chopper or Tank is low
I know all you care about is getting that easier way to Rank Form up, but hey... enjoy the challenge instead. You know better.

Attackers... sometimes you don't really attack
Sometimes the attackers are all Snipers, picking off Defenders from a distance, and the only people attacking the base take the form of Tanks & Choppers. It obvious all you care about is getting that easier way to Rank Form up... but games that last 2 hours get a little boring.

I truly, freaking love this game... but sometimes, it can be pain in the butt. For the record, Form Rank wise I hover between 4-15... mostly between 8 & 9 (which I care little for)

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indeed

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welcome to bad company

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jigga sam ooooooo where u been hiding not seen u post for a while

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I agree 100% sadly as I also love this game, play it everyday regardless of all the BS

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dont forget that the enemies are invisible now most the time to, im getting knifed and shot in a room where i can see both entrances and somehow get knifed by someone who wasnt in the room

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I wish I had my unlocks. I wish two shotgun blasts to a taggers face would kill them instead of them killing me with their knife when their still three steps away from me. Why does the knife always win against a * gunshot to the face? hmm? it's a good question. oh, and where are our unlocks? this game would be so cool if it didn't have these lame glitches, bugs, and now server problems.

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I quit playing Bad Company for a few weeks because of team killing. Soon as the match would start some moron would kill me & those on my squad. One time at the end of a match, two guys had -120 points. I mean really, is that necessary? I miss being able to vote people out, like Battlefield 2. I hope Bad Company 2 improves on this.

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ps3.Tighfield wrote:I quit playing Bad Company for a few weeks because of team killing. Soon as the match would start some moron would kill me & those on my squad. One time at the end of a match, two guys had -120 points. I mean really, is that necessary? I miss being able to vote people out, like Battlefield 2. I hope Bad Company 2 improves on this.


Maybe not even needing to vode, but making it so if it passes -45 they're automatically kicked, and make it like 3 teamkills instead of 8.

Teamkilling isn't the reason I prefer other battlefields, it's the fact that I can't pick my server and I spend an hour trying to find a good server so I can play. Where's the lag meter, number of people in the game, map, and game type at? I know i can select the game type and rely on that, but everything else is up in the air. It wasn't so hard for them to include it in the PS2 versions of the game, or the PC versions, where's the stuff for the PS3 version? That's the main deal breaker for me, I'll never buy another battlefield game if that isn't fixed.
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my strangest death was on the artillery i died cos i ran over myself?????? how did that happen. was playing last night and saw some die because they knifed themselves.. how did that happen? and the other day was in the turret gun on a tank and some one got in the rear gun and shot me... how did that happen?

lets face it the game sucks now and ea or dice can't or won't do anything to fix it cos they will just wait for bbc2 to come out and all this * will go away
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First time poster.. seems like things have gotten a bit better as of late. All the unlocks are back. I still think Knifers are getting away with murder (literally). Also Machine gun to skull > handgun to skull. Or it should be.

Only other complaints are to my teammates. I often find myself doing all the dirty work for my team. Starting as a sniper and dropping sensors all over god's green earth. If you're gonna be a recon guy, then do the recon guy's job. Same with support. Drop health everywhere and fix up broken stuff.. you get more points that way anyway...


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cem_ea_id.grump15 wrote:my strangest death was on the artillery i died cos i ran over myself?????? how did that happen. was playing last night and saw some die because they knifed themselves.. how did that happen? and the other day was in the turret gun on a tank and some one got in the rear gun and shot me... how did that happen?

lets face it the game sucks now and ea or dice can't or won't do anything to fix it cos they will just wait for bbc2 to come out and all this * will go away


well I can make u suicide in the arty. But only if u glitch it or u shot me out of it.

But I wont tell how to do it (even though 90%) of BFBC players know how to do it.

So if u glitch or kill me out of it... u suicide 25 secs later.

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ps3.Cottus-Cuhteena wrote:Man is this gonna be an EPIC rant...

Specialist: You guys have the best weapon against helicopters, and one of the best against Tanks. Use those transponders and hey.. you'll die less!

Assault, Demolition... hmm.. no complaints!




As a specialist player I'll have to call bovine fecal matter on the trace dart being the best against helicopters...

For one,the projectile trajectory is CURVED meaning youll have to aim above the helicopter.

Second, the projectile is SLOW meaning you'll have to aim far in front of where the helicopter is at.

Third, the range is SHORT meaning you cant hit helicopters who are at a high altitude. At all.

Fourth, reload time is relatively long.

All in all, i suspect you havent even tried tagging a flying helicopter before spitting so much hate on specialists. I tag tanks all the time though,but guess what happens next? Nothing. Why? Because no one ever plays demolition, so i end up having to sneak up on the tank and blow it up with a C4 pack anyway.

As for tagging helicopters on the ground, thats really not an issue as you can place a C4 on it and just blow it up the second someone tries to take off.

Try playing the class before you rag on it.

As for further complaints on classes,none for demolition/assault ? Heres some ideas:

Demolition:

1. Rocket launcher bloody sucks. Reload time is atrocious and it takes 3 shots or more to drop a heavy UNLESS you hit the weakspot (the block in the lower rear of em, supposedly the engine or something like that) then you can kill them in one shot but only then.

2. Shotgun bloody sucks. Sure it kills in one hit (the NS2000) if and only if you're close enough. If target is further than about 10 feet away it does next to nothing. I'm really not asking for the shotgun to oneshot kill across the map here, but a little increased efficient range would be welcome.

3. Mines bloody suck. Not only do they dissapear when/if you die so you have to replace them, but they also dissapear if you visit an ammo box to stock up on new ones and place more than what you started with. I say get rid of either of these limitations. I'd like to have a 20-30 mine strong minefield on maps like par, if theyre gonna dissapear when i die anyway. OR make my 5 mines STAY when i died until someone hit them or i place new ones (reload/replace).

Assault:
Assault is quite an OK class to play although a bit weak on the utility side but i suppose thats how its meant to be considering they have one of the better weapontypes.

However,i have to say...

1.Grenade launcher... bloody sucks. Sure it does a good job on city maps removing walls when players camp in buildings and poke holes in buildings you need to get in or out of. But as a weapon? Pfeh...it's like a pea shooter. Unless you hit your target dead center,and i mean DEAD CENTER its barely gonna scratch them while you have to spend 2-3 seconds reloading the darn thing. Sure i HAVE killed people with the grenade launcher but its mostly been people i could either knife, or people hiding behind walls and me getting a dead center shot. In short, the weapon is just too weak and it doesnt make sense that a thrown grenade does more damage than a launched one. Strange,inconsistant and just flat out weird.


As for the classes in general I'll also have to say its frustrating that only two kits have some sort of self healing while the other 3 are left in the cold. sure a good sniper probably dont need it and quite frankly might unbalance things a bit but demolition and specialist really have to get into the fray due to the nature of their weapons (short range). Is there any reason you cant get a full health boost when visiting an ammo box? If they could pack it full of ammo it only makes sense they have some first aid supplies in there as well!

Or what about the everpresent "regenerating health while out of combat" type of healing thats found in for example BF 1943, making you unable to heal in combat but fill up between fights. Like i said i play specialist alot and its just annoying having to ghetto heal (find an assault/support kit on the ground, pick up, heal self, switch back) to have any sort of healing outside of going to a support guy in my team and (hopefully) getting a med kit.

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ANYONE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH BAD COMPANY LOOSING ALL OF YOU WEAPONS AND CAN'T EVEN RANK UP. aLL THE INFO IS STILL THERE JUST I CAN ONLY GET ONE WEAPON FROM EACH KIT. THIS SUCKS I AM HAVING PROBLEMS.
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cem_ea_id.cort-philly wrote:ANYONE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH BAD COMPANY LOOSING ALL OF YOU WEAPONS AND CAN'T EVEN RANK UP. aLL THE INFO IS STILL THERE JUST I CAN ONLY GET ONE WEAPON FROM EACH KIT. THIS SUCKS I AM HAVING PROBLEMS.


Its temporary because EA cant keep the servers running. It will be back though, it has happened before. Fix your keyboard in the meantime, the capslock button seems to have some problems with it.
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