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Well, haven't seen any threads for this fight yet so, I figured either A. nobody cares, or B. we have alot of posters from other parts of the world in here who haven't seen it yet.
Anyway, for those who have seen it, or haven't seen it and don't care: Aldo wins by TKO in the 2nd. He took MTB's back early in the 2nd round and rained down strikes ala Silva Vs Henderson (though Silva eventually got the choke). Mazegatti had no choice but to stop it as MTB just couldn't do anything, he didn't seem too hurt after the fight, but it was definately a good stoppage. Maz let Aldo rain down uncontested blows on MTB for quite a while before calling the fight.
I was actually suprised while watching this fight, I figured that if MTB got Aldo in the clinch, he would have the power to take him down, well, I was wrong about that. I was also suprised at Aldo's approach to this fight, he was VERY carefull and calculating in the first round instead of just bum rushing his opponent which is usualy his M.O. I think Aldo is going to hold onto this belt for as long as he wants to. And by that I mean the sky is the limit for this kid. He seems to have the frame to support an easy move up to 155 and fight there if he got bored beating down guys at 145. I think this guy has a future in the UFC at 155 to be honest. It shouldn't be long before Dana starts taking a serrious look at this kid. He's young at 24 and has vast amount of skill when striking, not to mention he is a legit BJJ black belt and allegedly has supperior ground skill as well. I really can't think of anyone quite like him in MMA (yeah Spider Silva has that kind of M.O. too, but Aldo fights more "quick" and violent than him). MTB will go down as his first quality vic imo. His victory against Cub Swanson is a nice B grade vic too. A few title defenses should answer alot of those quality fighter questions down the road. But after watching him just pretty much handle MTB, I don't think there is anyone even at 155 in the WEC that can stop this kid. Maybe he will become the first WEC fighter to hold TWO belts at ounce. We'll see. Either way, I know the kid will need to get a handfull more fights under his belt before honest praise can be given to him, but just from what I've seen early, I think this kid has what it takes to be an all time great someday. And being a champion of a premeir promo like the WEC should help shine the spotlight on him more to further that cause.
I'm really excited to see where this kids career goes in the future. If the UFC doesn't call him up after a while, maybe Strikeforce will
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I agree 100% man, it was a great fight.
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Didn't see the fight, I will soon though...I thought Faber would have the belt back but his broken hand prevented that so I can't say I'm surprised MTB lost the belt...just lost it later than I expected!
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^ I think MTB is a great fighter. I was pleasently suprised by the way he fought coming into the WEC. I just think that Aldo is so good that it doesn't matter.
As for Faber? I'm not sure where he fits in this discussion anymore. MTB has proven to be a legitamate problem for him, and MTB had NO answers for Aldo. To me, Aldo has the size and strength of Brown, and the quickness and speed of Faber. Faber is a great fighter as well, and I would at least like to see him get a shot at Aldo just to see an exciting fight between two high-motor guys, but I think Aldo wins this fight no matter where it goes.
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I've been a fan of Aldo since his 1st fight in the WEC. He reminded alot of Anderson Silva. I just knew he would end up being the FW champ. I recieved alot of backlash on sherdog for saying he was the WEC's Anderson Silva and picking him over Brown. Unfortunately for them my prediction was spot on.
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cem_ea_id.MasterEnemy wrote:^ I think MTB is a great fighter. I was pleasently suprised by the way he fought coming into the WEC. I just think that Aldo is so good that it doesn't matter.
As for Faber? I'm not sure where he fits in this discussion anymore. MTB has proven to be a legitamate problem for him, and MTB had NO answers for Aldo. To me, Aldo has the size and strength of Brown, and the quickness and speed of Faber. Faber is a great fighter as well, and I would at least like to see him get a shot at Aldo just to see an exciting fight between two high-motor guys, but I think Aldo wins this fight no matter where it goes.
I say Faber lost the first fight to brown clearly, the 2nd was an unfortunate fight with Faber's hand being broken, otherwise I think he would have won... I can't say I want to see faber fight aldo next but eventually yes... I think faber needs to fight somebody decent but not a gimme, before aldo. I don't like to give excuses but if you watched Faber vs Brown II you should be able to tell that faber's hand was messed up and really that loss although it is a loss doesn't really count in my book...maybe they need faber vs brown III... if faber win's it's 'tied' if not it's brown>faber....
I think Faber vs Aldo as a next fight is almost assuredly an aldo win! and I'm not saying aldo's better.
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^ ^
Brown won the 1st fight against Faber but he didnt win in a way that let me know he was better than Faber and Faber being able to go 5 rounds with broken hands in theri 2nd fight proved it. Faber got cocky and tried something he shouldnt have and paid for it. I still feel he's a better fighter than Brown. Now Aldo? Faber wont beat Aldo but he is the only one who can IMO. He has the speed to keep up with Aldo and a solid ground game. Aldo vs Faber will basically be a kickboxing match which I think Aldo will win. I'm looking forward to it tho as both are my favorites in the WEC.
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cem_ea_id.K1LLA_BEE wrote:^ ^
Brown won the 1st fight against Faber but he didnt win in a way that let me know he was better than Faber and Faber being able to go 5 rounds with broken hands in theri 2nd fight proved it. Faber got cocky and tried something he shouldnt have and paid for it. I still feel he's a better fighter than Brown. Now Aldo? Faber wont beat Aldo but he is the only one who can IMO. He has the speed to keep up with Aldo and a solid ground game. Aldo vs Faber will basically be a kickboxing match which I think Aldo will win. I'm looking forward to it tho as both are my favorites in the WEC.
Aldo vs Faber isn't a done deal yet is it?
I'd hope for another solid win for Faber before a Faber vs Aldo fight...like I said before no gimme...I don't want a rigged fight.. I just would rather see a 'for sure' confident Faber vs Aldo... sort of 'no excuses' fight...
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cem_ea_id.K1LLA_BEE wrote:^ ^
Brown won the 1st fight against Faber but he didnt win in a way that let me know he was better than Faber and Faber being able to go 5 rounds with broken hands in theri 2nd fight proved it. Faber got cocky and tried something he shouldnt have and paid for it. I still feel he's a better fighter than Brown. Now Aldo? Faber wont beat Aldo but he is the only one who can IMO. He has the speed to keep up with Aldo and a solid ground game. Aldo vs Faber will basically be a kickboxing match which I think Aldo will win. I'm looking forward to it tho as both are my favorites in the WEC.
First off, to Puck: is the Aldo Vs faber deal in the books yet? No. Faber has been schedueled for some time now for a fight with Rafael Assuncao who is 14-1 and could present Faber with some problems. Assuncao is 2-0 so far in the WEC with a note-able vic over veteran Jameel Massouh. The fight will be on January 10, 2010.
And to KillaBee. I really like how you worded that first sentence. Couldn't have put it better myself. The problem is, I beleive ANY fight Faber has with Brown is going to be tough for him becasue, aside from dancing around the ring and trying to pick him off on points, Faber can't controll or dominate Brown. Brown is just much stronger than Faber, and has some skill to go along with it. That said, I'll agree that skill wisde, Faber is better than Brown. But even with that, Brown is a bad matchup for Faber because Faber has trouble hurting Brown, while Brown will have NO trouble hurting Faber if he lands something.
Oh, and nice call on the Sherdog forums if you did indeed call them on Aldo haha. I agree that Aldo is a smaller version of Silva, but I do think he is quicker, and has a more "powerfull" type of striking style than Silva. Silva seems more about precision than power. While Aldo seems to put massive amounts of power behind everything he throws. In any event, Aldo is impressive, and as I said above, I think he can fight at 155 and wind up in the UFC at some point.
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Do you think Aldo could be a legit contender at 155? I'd like to see him in the UFC, but I'd like to see him as a champ so I don't know!
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cem_ea_id.MasterEnemy wrote:Brown is a bad matchup for Faber because Faber has trouble hurting Brown, while Brown will have NO trouble hurting Faber if he lands something.
Faber doesnt seem to have as much power as Brown when it comes to punches but I'm pretty sure Brown was hurt by a Faber knee in their 1st fight. Immediately after the fight he was clutching his side and had to be helped out. I always wondered if Faber didnt try that elbow and the fight went on a few more minutes would that injury have shown up.
I agree about Aldo and yes I indeed called it. Its documented in my post statistics.
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cem_ea_id.K1LLA_BEE wrote:
cem_ea_id.MasterEnemy wrote:Brown is a bad matchup for Faber because Faber has trouble hurting Brown, while Brown will have NO trouble hurting Faber if he lands something.
Faber doesnt seem to have as much power as Brown when it comes to punches but I'm pretty sure Brown was hurt by a Faber knee in their 1st fight. Immediately after the fight he was clutching his side and had to be helped out. I always wondered if Faber didnt try that elbow and the fight went on a few more minutes would that injury have shown up.
I agree about Aldo and yes I indeed called it. Its documented in my post statistics.
Good point, I forgot about that. He had to cut the interview short too because of the pain from what I remember. That said, 9 out of 10, I don't think Faber hurts Brown much. That was really my point. But yes, there would always be a chance I guess that Faber could pull something like that and hurt him.
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cem_ea_id.elliot_hirst wrote:Do you think Aldo could be a legit contender at 155? I'd like to see him in the UFC, but I'd like to see him as a champ so I don't know!
Absolutely. He is a relatively thin guy at 145 and was still a tad bigger and stronger than MTB (who is recognized as one of the larger, and STRONGEST guys at 145). Aldo also seems to appear to have the frame to support an extra 10 pounds very easily without any performance drop-off. I still would like to see at least TWO title defenses by Aldo at 145 before a move up. IF he then moves up, I would like to see him fight at 155 in the WEC first. If he can go on to win the WEC 155 belt, then he should be ready for the big-time in the UFC OR Strikeforce (hopefully UFC).
One of the things right now I'm willing to say without a doubt about Aldo is that it just looks like the WEC competition is 2 steps below him. I'm also willing to say that aside from similarity's in style to Anderson Silva, there really isn't anyone like Aldo in MMA. He's extremely quick, very acurate, very aggressive and can knock you out with anything he throws. His athleticism seems to be a cut above as well. Right now I am going to say that he has the potential to be on that elite level of special fighters like: BJ Penn, GSP, Anderson Silva, and Fedor. I think theres a good possibilty we could be talking about this guy as one of MMA's greatest someday down the road. But again, the key word there being: potential.
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I really like Aldo! He's a young guy who can be even better! If he could break the dominance BJ has on the LW division that would be great. Smaller guys really need more recognition in P4P rankings ! They put of the best fights and are very very skillful! Big fan of the lower wqeightclasses
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cem_ea_id.elliot_hirst wrote:I really like Aldo! He's a young guy who can be even better! If he could break the dominance BJ has on the LW division that would be great. Smaller guys really need more recognition in P4P rankings ! They put of the best fights and are very very skillful! Big fan of the lower wqeightclasses
Yeah, I still think he's a couple of years away from that, but anything is possible I guess with this kids talent. As much as I respect BJ Penn as a fighter, I'm not willing to say that he'll still have the reigns in a couple of years as far as the UFC LW belt. Maybe he will, he's sure good enough to. But given his track record of losing interest and wanting to fight in other weightclasses, I'm not so sure. He definately has a hell of a test coming up in Diego Sanchez. I'm just going to enjoy watching some of the young and up-and coming fighters careers develop right before our eyes. Theres alot to be excited about in the world of MMA right now
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