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| 80% chance to kill with one shot |
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32% |
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| 40% chance to kill with one shot |
 
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| 20% chance to kill with one shot |
 
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| At least two shots |
 
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21% |
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| Improving hit box, add heart shot or butt shot |
 
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31% |
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hongpan1986
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Im wondering if we can get one shot one kill in this game. I mean the shots hitting to the body. There is no hope for prone anymore. And the Killer camera, automatic rehealing. Seems like everything is coming against Sniper kit. I think snipers need at least 60% chance to have a kill with one shot to the body. Otherwise, snipers are just a piece of dead meat in the battlefield.
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iateadrum
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I say that it shouldn't be chance that decides if it is a one hit kill, but based on where you shoot your target. So if you hit him in certain places he will die instantly, compared to other places, where he will take a pre-determined amount of damage. The places I would have be a one shot kill would be obviously the head or neck, the heart, and the femoral artery, and maybe a few other places, I don't really know.
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HenriqueKluch
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If you are good sniper = 1 shot 1 kill  Headshot
If you arent good with sniper... go play medic etc...
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20037626
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Battlefield games have ALWAYS been 2 shots anywhere = kill.
Headshots = 1 shot one kill. It's balance, and trust the community, it works.
Occasionally one shot will kill if the player has been previously injured.
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Relenger
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spore.HenriqueKluch wrote:If you are good sniper = 1 shot 1 kill  Headshot
If you arent good with sniper... go play medic etc...
Well said!!!
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nomats3
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In previous BF games, never had a problem with 2 shot kill. I don't see why other people do??? Maybe its harder on the console to aim?
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GodsHolyMember
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hongpan1986 wrote:Im wondering if we can get one shot one kill in this game. I mean the shots hitting to the body. There is no hope for prone anymore. And the Killer camera, automatic rehealing. Seems like everything is coming against Sniper kit. I think snipers need at least 60% chance to have a kill with one shot to the body. Otherwise, snipers are just a piece of dead meat in the battlefield.
You don't have a vote-option that I like. I think that DICE should create another hitbox for the player. The heart hitbox. You shoot the heart of the avatar with a high-load armor piercing round (i.e. something able to pierce the ceramic breastplate) it should be instantly fatal. The shot should only be possible from the front or armpit of the target's body and be very small, anywhere else would only do 50+ damage within the region as it is currently.
That's my suggestion.
...but yes, I agree to an extent about your concern, however, regenerative health (that is rather slow compared to MW1 & 2) incentivises snipers to aim for the head rather than just taking frequent, easy pot-shots. Its supposed to be an elite class IRL, therefore it should be more challenging to use, not less
After all, you don't have to account for windage or drop with these weapons, so something has to make this class more challenging since you're essentially shooting a laser.
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PANTERA_DIME
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Actually they have added the bullet drop feature one I do enjoy.
Though I agree with the the authors concerns.If I hit someone center mass
from 1/4-1/2 mile away.I want them to drop. The problem I have with two shots
is that you always loose your target after your reload.
P.s: I'm always shooting the distant targets.Unlike other snipers I leave the area as far as possible.It's agravating nailing somone from an epic distance and they just walk away. =/
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nomats3
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Maybe..... one sniper shot to drop someone to prone, and the guy can only crawl around, until a medic arrives, gives him a medic pack so the guy receives full health and can walk again.
Or they improve the hitbox, so when you shoot someone in the head, neck or heart, its one shot one kill. Otherwise, its probably not a fatal shot.
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GodsHolyMember
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PANTERA_DIME wrote:Actually they have added the bullet drop feature one I do enjoy.
Though I agree with the the authors concerns.If I hit someone center mass
from 1/4-1/2 mile away.I want them to drop. The problem I have with two shots
is that you always loose your target after your reload.
P.s: I'm always shooting the distant targets.Unlike other snipers I leave the area as far as possible.It's agravating nailing somone from an epic distance and they just walk away. =/
The bullet-drop is not significant for it to be realistic at all, the sniper rifles are still practically railguns for all intents and purposes. Beware of making the sniper rifle too powerful without adding further limitations, you'll only increase the number of people playing as snipers on the map.
per your P.S. long distance "epic" shots are to the head, anyone worth their salt that can lead a target can nail them in the chest at long distance...most have been doing that since BF1942.
I am not convinced the sniper rifles should be fatal to chest shots at such distances until its harder to even adequately hit a target as such distances. But since windage and more realistic drop is not gonna happen (nor do I necessarily want it to), headshots should be fatal, that should be it. Practice aiming for the head.
Come back and start complaining about hitboxes, that's the biggest complaint for otherwise skilled snipers.
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hongpan1986
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I suppose all of you are right. Sniper kit is very powerfuly, but that's not the excuse to add kill camera and remove prone in the game. Unless other kits have been crippled in the short distance, that's completely unacceptable for the balance purpose.
I was laughing when I saw the ps3 beta explaination video, cause the guy said," as you can see, kill camera only give player peek of who the killer is, and it doesn't give away the killer's position." That was *. I have seen killer camera other than his play, it completely compromise the position."
If we still need two shots to take one down, that's fine by me. In the previous game, it's frustrating to shoot someone from long distance and see him getting away. I think to have 30% chance score one with one shot to the body is cool. I mean to the body. Not feet, arms or butt. Improving hit box is a good idea too.
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speeedy6
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I think it is fine the way it is. Shot to the head and it's a kill. I don't really see any problems with how the shot detection is now. Some people will struggle with the sniping but that's the point, not everyone has the same set of skills...
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hongpan1986
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spore.HenriqueKluch wrote:If you are good sniper = 1 shot 1 kill  Headshot
If you arent good with sniper... go play medic etc...
You think it's easy to headshot a running target in the long distance? who doesn't know to aim to the head, the question is in the medium distance, a target knows where u r and he is ready to take u out, how do u kill him before he reaches you? In this game, I think the change is less than 10%. I mean experienced players versus each other. Not newbies. Newbies always do something funny.
I think MW1 was good on the sniper shot power. Players have more than 80% chance to get one shot one kill.
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Ihop666
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just need the torso divided in half. Stomach + Chest. Chest = Death, Stomach doesn't make sure that the arms have separate hitboxes as well so you need a shot from mid chest up for 1 shot 1 kill. that would be a box roughly the same size as the head box anyway so wouldn't give a large advantage I don't think.
I doubt real snipers go for headshots on moving targets, but I don't know
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dolmaface
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u guys are all looking at it wrong. The reason why they did this is because they couldn't have a kit be able to dominate the game, balance. If the sniper had a one shot kill than snipers would rule the game and it wouldnt be fun cause u would spawn, than be killed in one shot by a sniper hiding in the mountains.
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