The design team has been discussing possible solutions to the difficulty issue raised by many of our veteran players. The solution we've decided to pursue is to create more challenge through difficulty settings. These settings will focus primarily on the options available to you when setting up your shot. For example:

- No putt previews
- No aiming marker
- No ability to adjust the distance of the aiming marker (you can rotate your golfer and club up/down but will need to calculate power based on club distance and lie)
- No putting grid (Expert mode only)
- No zooming in to the aiming marker
- Additional camera control using the overhead map (similar to TW 08 PC camera)

There are a couple of other options we are considering, but these are the first group of settings we'd like to test.

Chime in with your thoughts/opinions.

looks interesting,should lower the scores from -23 to about -12.

Awsome, and after a couple of weeks playing without all those aids, I'll try without my hearing aids on as well.... and no glasses the week after that, maybe even have my fan blowing in my face.

But seriously, great idea nice place to start.

I may be jumping the gun on this and it would probably be better to wait until I see it in the game but, that being said, my initial thoughts and comments on this can only be based on what I currently see in the game. It is a good as any place to start to make the game more challenging and to still keep it fun for all.

Does advanced and expert pertain to the current pro and tour pro tournaments? Or does this mean additional tournaments are being planned?

Would assume these new levels in tournaments would mean lower scores are probable, what would that do to skill rankings? Would it lower them making advanced and expert players possibly always eligible for the amateur tournament? Allowing them to always finish in the money, especially since putt previews are allowed.

Can’t tell or even think about what this does in MP. Would guess additional game settings are required.

Have no complaint about no putt previews for the more expert players but, it sounds to me if they are allowed in lower levels tournaments, your either forcing me to play at a disadvantage or forcing me to utilize an arcade feature in order to compete. Would much prefer you leave it out of all EA created tournaments. Allow it to be a User created option if User can create tournaments, just as it is in MP. In Single player mode, allow it, it is then a users choice and has no impact on others

No aiming marker and no ability to adjust the distance of the aiming marker, will have to see these in action during game play but it does sound like a way to make the swing styles more even.

No putting grid. Can’t complain about this in expert mode but not sure with the current 2D graphics how well this will work even with additional camera angles. Will leave this up to the expert players to judge.

No zooming in to the aiming marker. Not sure about this one until I see it in action during game play.

Additional camera control using the overhead map. Can’t complain about this except why only in advanced and expert mode?

In some ways it sounds like the four levels we had in TW08 are back.

Novice equals Beginning
Intermediate equals Amateur
Advanced equals Pro
Expert equals Tour Pro

Maverick

sounds to me like different modes or levels and would not impact the tournaments or skill ratings we have now,I am just guessing but I think you would pick your level at the begining of career mode and each mode or level would have its own tournaments and ratings.

I agree you have to start somewhere, but I just don't see not allowing grid for putting or zoom feature is going to benefit anything. Especially the putting grid. The way some of these greens are setup this makes it extremely hard to make a putt. I won't even play Tour Pro anymore because of the rediculous green settings.
As far as the zoom, it's nice to know what is down the fairway on your tee shot. This helps since you can't move your golfer on the tee to avoid trees and such.

cem_ea_id.CarnoustieTW wrote:sounds to me like different modes or levels and would not impact the tournaments or skill ratings we have now,I am just guessing but I think you would pick your level at the begining of career mode and each mode or level would have its own tournaments and ratings.

Not sure I follow your thinking here.

Right now the different levels of tournaments have different multipliers for tie-breaker calculations so your scoring does impact how the skill ratings are calculated.

Don't see how you could pick your level at start of career mode if you were a newbie with zero attributes.

Again information but not all the information available to make informed comments. So here we go agian with the speculations.

Maverick

EDIT 1: Now that I think about it, you would have to have the ability to change your level of play in career mode or have more game setting options available in career mode, otherwise how would you be able to play/practice advanced/expert mode. Let alone join lower level MP games.

That's a very good start and can't wait to test. I won't make any comment now but again this shows that EA is listening and trying to accommodate us all . Small steps, yes, but steps in a positive direction.

cem_ea_id.maverickspirit wrote:

cem_ea_id.CarnoustieTW wrote:sounds to me like different modes or levels and would not impact the tournaments or skill ratings we have now,I am just guessing but I think you would pick your level at the begining of career mode and each mode or level would have its own tournaments and ratings.

Not sure I follow your thinking here.

Right now the different levels of tournaments have different multipliers for tie-breaker calculations so your scoring does impact how the skill ratings are calculated.

Don't see how you could pick your level at start of career mode if you were a newbie with zero attributes.

Again information but not all the information available to make informed comments. So here we go agian with the speculations.

Maverick



EDIT 1: Now that I think about it, you would have to have the ability to change your level of play in career mode or have more game setting options available in career mode, otherwise how would you be able to play/practice advanced/expert mode. Let alone join lower level MP games.

now we have one level,the tournaments we have now are not different levels,the game plays the same in each event,the only difference is the conditions,this does not make each tournament a different level.
Why cant you pick what level you want to play career mode,if you want to start on the lowest level and progress through that could be a choice but I and many others would want to start on the highest level rather than spend weeks or months playing lower levels to get to the level we want to play.
MP games are not a problem,they dont have ratings,just add another option to pick the level of the MP game,you could also have a mixed level option if you want to play a buddy from a different level.
Another option would be to have a player for each level on your account,this way there are no restrictions on anyone as what they want to play on any given day.

i agree with DUNKLBJ on the issues he brings up. a putting grid needs to stay in the game. i cannot see myself reading the greens well enough to sink a 15 ft putt. and then you have hard or expert pins. i just dont see it happening. and theres the zoom option. i dont see a point in taking them away. atleast at this time, i can not tell if there is a tree in my flight path. zoom is the only tool i have to make sure my shot is safe

cem_ea_id.suda817 wrote:i agree with DUNKLBJ on the issues he brings up. a putting grid needs to stay in the game. i cannot see myself reading the greens well enough to sink a 15 ft putt. and then you have hard or expert pins. i just dont see it happening. and theres the zoom option. i dont see a point in taking them away. atleast at this time, i can not tell if there is a tree in my flight path. zoom is the only tool i have to make sure my shot is safe

Then just don't play Expert, life is simple at the lower levels....

i am one of the people complaining that the game is too easy. change is good. there is no reason to go all out. maybe a few changes at first and adjust from there. no BONZIA. all or nothing is not my idea of improvment

If the camera modes are exactly like 08 ie you can pan forward with the f key use the 5 key (or whatever key they decide on) to go to follow ball mode have the 4 key for reverse view than indeed this would be an very good improvement. If clicking on the overhead shows you the yardage out than again a vast improvement. The green reading may be tough without the 3d graphics but hopefully before long that too will be added .

This is the most positive news so far as far as having this closer to the expert mode in 08 which is a very good sim of golf. Good thinking guys it's nice to post something on the positive note for a change

Again Suda the no grid or zoom would be for the expert mode only this indeed would put the challenge back in the game the easiest way to set up tournaments I would think is that the beginner would be novice amateur = intermediate, pro=advance and of course tour pro= expert dont matter what you call them its the end result that matters.

Again, the tournaments we have now are fully subscribed.....I hope these new modes will be accommodated in a new series of tournaments. You don't, after all, want to start out with NO aids AND high winds, long tees, hard greens and fairways, high rough, etc. ................ DO you?