please don't add buttons to online game play

1) Add a stamina slider......this will make offline gameplay perfect.

2) Have more power in straights from the big men (foreman, lewis, and boxers who utilise their straights as their main KO punch)

3) This is a big one so bear with me.....

The difference in power between a regular punch and a COUNTER punch is too large. Way too large. 9 out of 10 times you will hurt the cpu with a counter over the regular punch and this is simply not the case. the ratio should be like 4 to 6.

Some say raise the power slider to add effect for the regular punches. Well if i do that, the same increase will effect the counter punches. So the whole offline/online play is centered around counterpunching to effectively and consistenly hurt your opponent and this just isn't realistic. the only way to hurt your opponent consistently using a regular punch is by accumulated damage. Very few and far between that a regular punch can flash KD/KO an opponent.

The best solution right now is to add counterpunch power, regular punch power and haymaker power slider. That will solve ALL the problems and everyone will be happy. If not possible, at least adjust it across the board. And please don't forget the STRAIGHTS. that needs to be raised first and then this counter-punch problem be dealt with.

Right now it feels like this is the power slider:

reg. pounch 3/10
counter punch 8/10
haymaker 10/10

should be 6, 7 9 respectively if you ask me.

4) add buttons, and if you do, create 2 online lobbies. .....one for buttons, one for TPC.
everyone is a winner!

5) can we use sliders ONLINE for unranked play ? this would be great.

btw....1-3 are needed most IMO.

I just lost a match to decision after the 10th round in championship, and I almost destroyed stuff around me.


Why? I knocked the guy down in the third round; stunned him in every round up to the 10th. And I lost.

He didn't knock me down ONCE; I'm sorry but in a real boxing match, he lost. Definitely need to patch this or something because that's completely broken.

The scoring system is just terrible; I'm not even sure wtf judges are looking for! Punches landed only? Do counters add more points? TELL ME SO I CAN GET CHEAP WINS TOO LULZ.

WISHLIST: BUTTON CONTROLS

Yeah fix the Legacy glitch so I can actually have fun playing the game I've waited a year for. It won't show my guys face in Legacy it just shows some other downloaded fighter. Then when I actually fight it shows my guy but with black hair (my hair is red). Then when I check my ranking the game freezes when I get to the fighters I downloaded. I would like the game if it worked. This is'nt fair now I'm out money for a game I can't play. It's awsome that thy added all this stuff to the Legacy mode but it would be kooler if I could actually play the game.

Playable Female Boxers!!!

ps3.Syntaxxor wrote:I just lost a match to decision after the 10th round in championship, and I almost destroyed stuff around me.


Why? I knocked the guy down in the third round; stunned him in every round up to the 10th. And I lost.

He didn't knock me down ONCE; I'm sorry but in a real boxing match, he lost. Definitely need to patch this or something because that's completely broken.

The scoring system is just terrible; I'm not even sure wtf judges are looking for! Punches landed only? Do counters add more points? TELL ME SO I CAN GET CHEAP WINS TOO LULZ.

Sorry, but this is terribly realistic. If anything, they should add something to recognize bad or questionable decisions.

Ok, so after playing the game a bit and spending some quality time with the CAB setting, here's my list of sober suggestions:

1. Smooth TKO's... I was destroying Duran with Gatti up until the 9th, when the ref just steps in and waves it off because Gatti's cut up too bad. Seemed cheap and unreasonable since I hadn't lost a round. A little "you gotta stop this bleeding or I'm going to stop it" in between rounds from the ref would have been clutch.
Also, as I saw mentioned earlier, standing TKO's where someone gets trapped and pummeled until the ref steps in to wave it off would be really exiting.

2. KO celebrations... Wouldn't be all the time, but a flash KO leading to one guy running over and pointing the the crowd would be sweet. I'm thinking something like goal celebrations in NHL games.

3. More venues... The ones we have now are great, but some more variety would be nice. Germany is unrepresented and a place like Foxwoods in Connecticut would be an enriching addition.

4. More voice recognizable names/places in CAB mode... Not that you need to add a ton, but Boston isn't even recognized as a city in the list! Also, a dozen or so nickname additions.. a lot of the ones in there are already well established monikers, leaving made up fighters with little to run with.

5. Adding female boxers (as already mentioned by Gatti_Magnum) would be a really enriching addition to the game. There are a lot of exciting and talented women in the fight game that would be fun to see. Holly Holm, Ann Marie Saccurato, Mary Jo Sanders, Chevelle Hallback, Kina Malpartida, Jeaninne Garside, and Susi Kentikian (seriously, YouTube some of her fights, she's a cannonball in the ring) all stand out as some of the less obvious possible additions among female boxers.

6. Adding more male boxers to the game, although I feel like you've already got this covered and on the way. Plus the photo game face, while not perfect as advertised, gives us a great template to make realistic fighters. Still, I'd be willing to pay to download a licensed and perfected version of Mickey Ward, Holyfield and Mayweather; for starters.

7. Tattoos in CAB. Terrible oversight, limits potential.



...That's it for now, as I haven't been able to dive into the Legacy mode just yet; but so far I've been really impressed with this game and would be euphoric about it if you took my advice.

Gameplay:
Blocking from the guard should be added. In my opinion LB should be the button you hold to keep your guard when you block. If your blocking high and you press and hold LB it should hold it so you can use the R stick to throw a punch while your other hand is still blocking. This way it won’t be automatic and you would have to consciously do it.

Styles, have more animations, bring back the feel of boxer authenticity like in FNR3, playing with RJJ doesn’t feel like your playing with RJJ.

Footwork, make it more response for real quick guys RJJ would jump in and out so fast that he never needed to block. This is impossible in the game right now.
Quick circular turn to move the a boxers side like in VB 2 kinda like RJJ use to do so very often.

Ability to throw leaping and lunging punches, They could leave you off balance and open to a big shot.

Modifier to step back while leaning back.

Ability to stun someone with a well placed lead punch that isn’t a counter or haymaker, right now the game is too much of a counter boxers game.

Tendacy bars. For boxers

EDIT ADDED 06-28-09 : oh yeah please add MANY MANY more knockdown animations.

EDIT ADDED: 06-28-09 :

Punching from the clinch, and a ratting for doing so. We should aslo be able to spin the opponent when in the clinch, to try to get out of the coner for example, this could be a struggle, using one of the analog sticks. This should depending on a clinching attribute.

EDIT ADDED : 06-29-09: Another thing is that if you are able to hold on to your clinch a reach should appear to separate the 2 fights so that we can start from a distance, that is one of the reasons why a lot of taller fighters clinch when the opponent gets on the inside.

Boxer awareness rating, just like madden there should be a boxing awareness rating, alot of boxers are smarter better technical boxers who do the smart thing and learn to adjust better, so when controlled by the CPU these boxers would have better AI relatively compared to the other boxers. Right now when playing the AI at GOAT all the boxers seem to be as smart.


Legacy mode:
1. -- Sign fight contracts, with possible rematch clauses and share % splitting. For example if you fight a champ he could as for a 70/30 split and a mandatory rematch.

2. -- With the money we earned we should of been able to hire trainers to more expensive the trainer, the better and consequently the more points you earn when training. and trainers could have their specialties like, speed, power, stamina or defense etc. The money you earn should be use to pay the trainers salary for the next fight

3. -- We should of been able to sign contract negotiation with different promotional teams, they could help us get better fight contacts and better fights, that push your career faster and in the right direction.

These 3 features would of made legacy mode more fun, deeper, more strategic and a lot more realistic. without good promotion and management a boxer could stay in obscurity. I'm expecting this in R5!!!

Trainer mode, where you would manage a gym and the multiple fighters inside that gym.

CAB:
Fix it please bring it at least to par with Tiger Woods, FaceBreaker and Facegen, also bring back tattoos maybe a way to upload pics and add them as tattoos. people have been vocal and have gone into alot of detail about this so I won't get into it. Basically it needs all more flexibility and options.

Online:
Disconnect/Quit=lost
LOBBIES, LOBBIES. LOBBIES with different slider options and settings i.e: for people who want to play sim vs ppl who want to play arcady.

Add a buzz cut instead of just the fades

1. Smooth TKO's... I was destroying Duran with Gatti up until the 9th, when the ref just steps in and waves it off because Gatti's cut up too bad. Seemed cheap and unreasonable since I hadn't lost a round. A little "you gotta stop this bleeding or I'm going to stop it" in between rounds from the ref would have been clutch.
Also, as I saw mentioned earlier, standing TKO's where someone gets trapped and pummeled until the ref steps in to wave it off would be really exiting.

Yea I was playing and got knocked down, and got up on eight and as soon as I got up the ref called the fight in my favor because of damage on the other person.

ps3.POETICDRINK2U wrote:I have many ideas and suggestions like you all do so let's put them here so they don't get buried in this forum. Please be constructive on other people ideas and discuss how it could be better if you don't like them. Let's support each other ideas and no idea is too big.

DLC packs for 800 mspts with 6 boxers, make them country specific ie UK boxers Barry McGuigan, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, David Haye, Amir Khan and Henry Cooper. Then a USA boxer pack Evander Holyfield, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Rocky Marciano, Bernard Hopkins and Sonny Liston.
Also please someone have a word with Rockstar and get some good music for the game, they manage it, surely the 20 odd random bits of rubbish the game comes with can be improved with an update, check out Midnight Club LA or anyother Rockstar game, they can affrord it lol or even DLC at 100 points per boxer and produce a huge number of them to truely make this game ground breaking, also a update with extra commentary would be good, that perfect sunset line makes it into every match i have .....

ps3.Allpog wrote:please don't add buttons to online game play[/quote
DLC packs for 800 mspts with 6 boxers, make them country specific ie UK boxers Barry McGuigan, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, David Haye, Amir Khan and Henry Cooper. Then a USA boxer pack Evander Holyfield, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Rocky Marciano, Bernard Hopkins and Sonny Liston.
Also please someone have a word with Rockstar and get some good music for the game, they manage it, surely the 20 odd random bits of rubbish the game comes with can be improved with an update, check out Midnight Club LA or anyother Rockstar game, they can affrord it lol or even DLC at 100 points per boxer and produce a huge number of them to truely make this game ground breaking, also a update with extra commentary would be good, that perfect sunset line makes it into every match i have .....

I haven't read any of the other forums, nor did I read this entire thread, so please forgive me if I repeat anything already mentioned.

One thing that I think was overlooked in Legacy Mode was the ability to choose fight length. You go from 4 rounds in the amateurs, 6 rounds early as a pro, then 10, then the 12 round championship fights. You really ought to have been able to schedule fight lengths, as well. Often you'll see young prospects fighting 4 and 6 round bouts early on, then moving up after ten or fifteen fights into the 8 or 10 round range. It also sets the tempo at which you'll need to fight to ensure victory for your fighter. Some boxers start slow, and pick it up late, while others come out blazing, but fade in the later rounds. Fight length can dictate which fighter will likely prevail, barring a knockout, of course.

Probably not a huge deal, but it would add a certain level of realism to the game.

Questionable judging, like it or not, is part of the boxing scene. Some element of bad judging should have been included. Not all three judges for every fight, but every once in a while, one of the judges scores every close round for the players opponent. There are too many rounds (practically all in my short experience with the game) in which all three judges see it the same. Blowout rounds, sure, one fighter ought to win the round on all 3 cards, but rounds that favor one fighter or the other, but not by huge margins, could fall victim to poor judging. Again, could take the realism to another level.

I also would have liked to have seen the ref take more of an active role in stopping the fight. In forty fights so far, every one has either gone to decision, or been a KO. No ref stoppages, even in fights where I've knocked the opponent down as many as six times. I haven't seen too many fights where the ref let it continue after three knockdowns, especially in one round. Yes, it has happened, Pacquiao-Marquez I comes to mind, but generally after three knckdowns in a single round, the fight is over, 3-knockdown rule or not.

Gameplay is great, no complaints on that front, although countering is really, really difficult. For me, anyway. Maybe it should be, but it's frustrating to constantly be whiffing on counter opportunities. I like the new block system, I'm not getting clocked every round like I was in FNR3. All in all EA has done a superb job with this release, 4/5 stars from me.

I also want Spectator mode during Career mode as a Simulation.

I haven't posted any ideas yet but when I post you guys are going to get alot of good ideas.

One thing I truly want is actual knockouts.... no trying to to get up what so ever straight unconsciousness no need to count at all type KO's and a fighter that has been knocked out should be arguing or standing up in his corner. A boxer that has been stopped or KO'd should be sitting down getting doctor attention.