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ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:
cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:
ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:
cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:
ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:
MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.
This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.
People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL
again, if you didn't see... Peyton didn't have a D either (early on) and he's ONLY had TWO season where he finished w/ less than 10 wins. In fact, he had back to back 10+ wins in his 2nd and 3rd year already. His last season to finish w/ less than 10+ wins was in 2001!
When was Brees last back to back 10+ win season? ....oh yeah, that's right---he hasn't had one.
Peyton has also had a superior running game for most of his career (until lately), something Brees hasnt had until this year. And sadly...the Saints D's of previous years were worse than the Colts when Manning entered the league.
Again, those 2 posts^ basically end the duscussion. Brees hasnt had a SB caliber team...
lmao! L.T. in his PRIME! or did you forget?
Sorry, Im only talking about his years in NO...way back then Brees wasnt even that great himself. Discussions over...
Uh lol 2004 SD brees was good... except they choked
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ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:
cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:
ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:
cem_ea_id.lb316vikings wrote:
ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:
MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.
This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.
People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL
again, if you didn't see... Peyton didn't have a D either (early on) and he's ONLY had TWO season where he finished w/ less than 10 wins. In fact, he had back to back 10+ wins in his 2nd and 3rd year already. His last season to finish w/ less than 10+ wins was in 2001!
When was Brees last back to back 10+ win season? ....oh yeah, that's right---he hasn't had one.
Peyton has also had a superior running game for most of his career (until lately), something Brees hasnt had until this year. And sadly...the Saints D's of previous years were worse than the Colts when Manning entered the league.
Again, those 2 posts^ basically end the duscussion. Brees hasnt had a SB caliber team...
lmao! L.T. in his PRIME! or did you forget?
Sorry, Im only talking about his years in NO...way back then Brees wasnt even that great himself. Discussions over...
WHAT? lmao...Discussions over? So you guys are basing Brees being better than Manning or Brady off of the last 3 and a half years? omg...now I know you're a homer. So his 104 QB rating in 2004 didn't matter? His 3500 yards and 24 TD's in 2005 means nothing? lol.
so now to judge a GREAT QB, he only has to put up elite numbers (and not the wins) for 3 and a half years? wow...if that's the case, I think Aaron Rodgers is on pace to top Brees, Brady, and Manning.
ps: you know who Brees is MORE likely to turn out like? Marc Bulger. A guy who could easily put out 4000 yards a season w/ 20+ TD's and 65% completion (and has no D to support)....but then all the sudden play like an ordinary QB. You're gonna have to play more than 3 or 4 great seasons. Unless he shows he can win consistently EVERY year, post up the numbers, and win a SB...then I'll put him up there w/ Manning and Brady. But to say he's better than them...lol.
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tombradykiksars...
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Not to mention Brees throws like 600 times a year so his stats are obviously gonna look good... Brady threw way less and had 50 TD's and 4.8k yards.
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ps3.NIteMarE- wrote:
MAIN.CharlieH81 wrote:
Yeah, Brees was drafted in 2002. Marino played for like 17 years. And Brees has been unfortunate not to have a defense to support his teams until this year.
This basically ends this thread...nice post charlie, basically the same as what I said. Brees has never been on a SB caliber team (because of his defenses) until now.
People just keep bringing winning up as the only way to defend "against" Brees. IT HASNT BEEN HIS FAULT!! LOL
yes, its been over lol. And no one said (at least I didnt see it) that Brees was better than Manning.
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