Need for Speed Racing Games

SHIPO13 wrote:

asdfghjkloiuy wrote:I had never played Underground 1, until now.
awesome...

BTW it is sad, that those games are on 4:3 screen. :/
but still that doesn't keep me from playing

NFSU Widescreen Patch:
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/downloads/uniws.zip

COooooool, thanks, I never new there was this kind of thing, starting the game from the beginning!

[quote=kemija]My idea for perfect NFS game.

Before I start to write,I need to say that I have 7 of NFS games installed on computer so I looked at EVERY ASPECT OF GAME. NFS from Underground 1 to Undercover + Hot Pursuit 2010.

I'm also sorry for my bad English,I hope you will understood me.

And yes,I played every NFS for 10 minutes to see mistakes and I spend about 2 hours to write this post.

So,lets start:

[b]MENU[/b]. - Most Wanted/Underground 2 style:

1 First you have profile selector.
2 When you choose profile you have:
Career,Quick Race,My Cars,Online,LAN,Profile Menager,Options.
3 In Quick Race you have types of races + free room like in Underground 2.

Most Wanted/Underground menu video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eksZZB3-t68
Undercover menu video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwgUcckdKDk - (yes,it sucks so bad)

BTW We want to see map when we type „M“ in game. Like in Most Wanted/Underground 2. NOT some gps-map-undercover-bulls**t!

[b]RACING.[/b]

Types of races are.
1 Circuit
2 Sprint
3 Drag (Undercover+Most Wanted Type)
4 Drift
5 Lap Knockout
6 Toolbath/Checkpoint Race (Most Wanted type)
7 Speedtrap (Most Wanted type)
8. Canyon duel (Carbon+Pro Street+“GRID“ type)

You all know those types of races but I will tell you more about Drag,Drift and Canyon duel.

Drag – Drag should be „copy“ of Highway Battle from Undercover. Most of people would love to see drag with „full-car-control“ (HW Battle on Undercover has it). What would be difference between Drag and HW Battle? On Drag you need to start regular,all cars starts on same time,you don't start after opponents. Like on Underground 1,2 and Most Wanted.

Drift – There will be 3 types of drift races. Drift on city streets,canyon drift and „free style drift“ (from GRID). City Street and Canyon Drift should be copy of NFS Carbon drift. But,“Free Style Drift“ is from GRID. You are drifting in a big harbour and you have time limit. After 2-4-5-8-10-12 minutes they count all your points and thats your score.

„Free Style Drift“ video – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33WWdHXx0dY

Canyon duel – I played „GRID“ and NFS Carbon a lot of last time,so I got this crazy idea. In Carbon and „GRID“ you have two races. Players start to drive in different time. One after other. Only difference between Carbon-Canyon and GRID-Canyon is that on GRID there is no points. I think there should be ONLY ONE race,without points,drivers starts to race in the same time (like any other regular race).

Also there is some long and awesome „canyon“ race (they are like sprint+canyon – high speed challange) in Pro Street.

„Pro Street Canyon“ video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVIRDQD_Y6Y
„GRID Canyon“ video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y3QZSbgcp0

All races have 4 opponents. Not 8,not 12,not 16,but 4,only 4. Canyon duel will have 1 opponent. On quick race you should be able to choose between 2,3 and 4 opponents.

WE DON'T WANT OPPONENTS ON FREE ROOM LIKE IN UNDERGROUND 2!

[b]QUICK RACE.[/b]

Some things I really hate about Quick race is:
You have Free Room only in Underground 2.
You have „Quick play“ and „Custom race“ on Most Wanted.
„Quick play“ race is useless.

On „Custom race“ you have some things you need,but they missed the point.
There should be option (like in MW Career): „Minimum Cop activity“ and „Maximum Cop activity“. Minimum – No cops at all. Maximum – when you brake something or hit car cops will show in race.

There should be also „Time of the day option“. On Hot Pursuit I really like night and day driving. But.. from day to night needs to pass only 10 minutes. I was thinking that 10 minutes in game should be 1 hour in real life,so that day and night can change naturaly.

I really like both driving,I enjoy night,also as the day.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/2039/nfsmw.png

[b]CREATE OWN RACES.[/b]

I would really love to see this on NFS. That we can create our own tracks.

[b]GAMEPLAY / ENGINE.
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One thing I hate about Underground 1 / 2 / Carbon / Pro Street / Undercover
All cars have „simular“/“same“ handing and steering. For onces who play the game first time,they won't „feel“ difference between driving Honda Civic and Mazda RX-8 (Underground 2).

I really like that on Most Wanted every car has UNIQUE steering and handing,I really enjoyed that. You can feel diference between Dodge Viper and Corvette C6,Lamborghini Gallardo and Murichelago etc.

Also,“game engine“ should be like in Hot Pursuit 2010/The Run – I enjoy driving cars on Hot Pursuit. It feels so natural,really great thing!

I also hate „Undercover game engine“ – yes,I really hate driving car on Undercover,it feels so „un natural“,cars have awefull steering and handing.

Also,ONLY DRIFT needs to have „carbon engine“,rest of game mods needs to have „HP 2010 / The Run engine“.

BTW I also like „Most Wanted engine“,but I like more „HP 2010/The Run“.

BTW 2 When you hit car,it should be like on Most Wanted/Carbon,and not like on HP 2010/Underground 1 / 2.
[b]
MANUAL SHIFTING[/b]

I play all races with manual shifting,but on some games (like Undercover/Carbon) manual shift sucks.

Manual shift should be like in Most Wanted.

[b]CAR OWNER.[/b]

Do you remember that on Underground 1 you could only have ONE car?
Do you remember that on Underground 2 you could have five cars which belong to SPONSORS?
Did you know that on Carbon and Undercover there is a maximum number of cars which you can buy?

I hate that.

I want good-old-unlimited-number-of-cars-which-i-can-own (like in Most Wanted).
I have 30 cars on Most Wanted,and they all belong to me.

[b]CUSTOMIZATION.[/b]

Do you remember Underground 1 / 2 Tuning?
Do you remember „autosculpt“ from Carbon/Pro Street/Undercover? You do? Great.
It sucks,isn't it?

„Autosculpt“ is useless becouse every car is copy-cat. Also „Underground“ tuning is also useless becouse of the same reason.

I really hate „Autosculpt“,adding some height on Spoiler/Wheels/Body/Bumper/Whatever. It's useless.

I like Tuning like in Most Wanted,every car is UNIQUE,it has UNIQUE bodies. I like that,A LOT. Only thing that sucks about MW is number of bodies. 4 bodies? 4? Are you kidding me? I want see at least 6 bodies!! 6!! At least!!

Did you remember? Most Wanted tuning with more bodies. No bulls**t like „Autosculpt“. Tnx.

Also,without neon lights/mirrors/hydraulics/other-underground-2-bulls**t.

Just Body kits,spoilers,rims,hoods and roof scoops.

[b]CUSTOMIZATION 2 – PREFORMANCE.[/b]

I enjoyed in Preformance tuning from Underground 2. If you don't have enough money,you can buy components,you don't need to buy full package. When you upgrade package you still have components from lower-level-package.

I think you should keep this option,but I'm not against Most Wanted Preformance tuning.

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/4910/prefrk.png

[b]CUSTOMIZATION 3 – VINLYS.[/b]

I also like Samantha's vinlys from Underground 1 and „Art Factory“/„Contest“ vinlys from Underground 2. They look * gorgeus!! I would love to see them again. I would love to see at least 40 vinlys!!

[b]COPS.
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You played Undercover?

You remember that cops are show after 2 minutes,even if you didn't do anything wrong?
You remember? Great! I really hate that pain-in-the-*-cops. They begin to chase you even if you didn't do anything wrong!

I also hate cops from Hot Pursuit. Man.. I really hate that weapon bulls**t! If you want kill someone,go play GTA San Andreas,this is racing game.. you know.

I want good old cops like in Most Wanted. Same heat level etc.

[b]DYNO/TUNING.[/b]

I really HATE dyno from Underground 2,it's like cheating. But I really really like tuning from Most Wanted. This option should be add in future.

I also hate tuning on Carbon,it's also like cheating.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6596/mw2b.png

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[b]MAP.[/b]

I enjoyed in Undercover map. It soo * HUGE! Great job. You have a lot of highway which I really like. Also there are some great Canyon areas like „Gold Coast Mountains“.

I also really like map from Hot Pursuit 2010 – Snow area,Mountain area,Forest area,Beach area etc. * great map!

You should put this two maps together and add some „City areas“ like in Most Wanted/Carbon!

Also,want to see map when we type „M“ in gameplay. Like in Underground 2/Most Wanted.

[b]SHOPS.[/b]

Do you remember that in Underground 2 every shop has it's own shop?
Special shop for graphic,special shop for preformance,special shop for body.
I hate it.

On Carbon and Undercover you can tune car in career menu. I hate that also.

I want good-old-most-wanted-shop-and-car-lot.

[b]MORE CASH![/b]

On Underground 2 there is no races after you pass the game!
On Carbon you can get only 10% of cash when you play same race second time!
On Most Wanted you get same amount of money when you play 1st time,2nd time or 56395639th time.

Keep this from Most Wanted.

http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/6172/cashq.png
[b]
SPEED LIMIT.[/b]

On Most Wanted you can drive max 65 mp/h
On Carbon 60 mp/h
On Undercover also 60 mp/h.

We want speed limit like in real life.

[b]JUMP TO SAVE HOUSE (JTSH).[/b]

I don't know for you guys,but I really like „JTSH“ from Underground 2. You can jump anytime,and when you get out of safe house you continue to play in the place where did you jump into.

In Most Wanted is not like that. You get out in front of safe house,not in front of place where did you jump into.

Yes,my stupid English,I hope you understood what I wanted to say.

[b]JUMP ON EVENTS.[/b]

I also like the way which you jump on events on Most Wanted. Keep this option.

I hate „Undercover“ jump on events way,this „tab-option“ sucks!

[b]CAR TIERS!!![/b]

Did you noticed that on Carbon (and Pro Street,and Undercover etc.) there is „CAR TIER“?
This sucks SOO FU**ING BAD!
Man.. in which parallel universe is Toyota Supra Tier 3 and Mazda RX-8 Tier 1? Can you explain that to me?

I really like that on Most Wanted all cars have „simular“ speed.

http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8489/speedxr.png

Left – Fiat Punto. Right – Corvette C6.

On Carbon,Mazda RX-8 goes 140 MP/H max,and Toyota Supra goes 200 MP/H. Why?

[b]CAR TIERS SUCKS!![/b]

Btw. For Your information: 98% of people hate „muscle“ and „exotic“ cars becouse they are „faster“ than „tuner“. Give us fu**ing chance to be equal!!

Btw 2. Every LOOSER who doesn't know to play NFS can pass NFS with Ford GT/Bulgatti Veyron/McLaren-Mercedes.. REAL guys do that with Fiat Punto/Toyota Supra/Mazda RX-8.
[b]
CARS FROM PAST NFS GAMES.[/b]

I was tooo laaazyy to write full car list. But I will put some cars which I would love to see on some NFS in future.

(UG1 – Underground 1. UG2 – Underground 2)

2003 Honda S2000 (UG1 – I LOOVE IT),Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX (UG2),Toyota Celica,Hyundai Tiburon GT V6,Acura RSX,Acura Integra Type-R (UG1),Mazda RX-8,BMW M3 E92 and E46,BMW M6,Fiat Punto,Cobalt SS..

And yes,PUT FERRARI FOR THOSE GUYS.

[b]STORY.[/b]

I don't know about the story,but I would like to see Most Wanted 2 or Undercover 2.. suprise me! [/quote]
Great ideas you have there for a new game but why stick to one game engine/driving style? Why not add a seletion of driving styles as seen on the older nfs like arcade, simulation and such.
My idea is similar to yours but includes:
-Outrun races
-Autosculpt
-Tiers(cars are upgradeble through them example a tier 1 car can be upgraded to tier 3)
-Type selection for cars(gran turismo-ish I know)
Car list(at least what is needed)
-Mazda RX7 FC-FD+JDM models
-Jaguar XJR-15
-Toyota Supra RZ
-Nissan Skyline GTR R32-R34
-Shelby Gt500
-Lotus Gt1
-Mclaren F1
-S2000
-Eclipse GSX to 2012 GT
-Celica Gt4 and GTS
-MR2
-Jaguar XJ220
-Koenigsegg CCX/CCR/Agera
-Italdesign Nazca C2
-Italdesign Cala
-Italdesign Shigera
-Frazer Nash Concept
-Integra Type R DC2/DC5
-NSX
Customization at least must include:
At least 2 bodykits(tuners must have at least4)
Fron,Rear,Side bumpers plus over fender/widebody option
RIms
Hoods
Roof scoops
Neons
Interior modifications

Okay, I have to admit some idea's are really good but I aswell would want to give my opinions to actually improve the NFS series. Mostly because I've played alot of racing/tuner/drift/realism games and actually combining some major pointers of these different racing games could actually make a good game. (Note: I might actually say some things that people might have said in earlier posts, I've not read every post so please bear with me on this one) Also I am going to mention alot of different games in my post, so EA if you don't agree with this, go ahead and censor them out.

One thing that I want to say first: Keep out the rock music in the games? Dumbest idea ever. Not every person likes the whole dance/techno thing they have in earlier games. I aswell would just mute the music if EA actually decides to put your idea in the future games. A better idea would be to incorporate EA trax back so you can actually decide what you want to listen to during friving. Or just incorporate a User Track mode so you can actually listen to your own music like in GTA.

BIG pointer in my point of view is actually the tuning and customising in the NFS franchise. Now I understand a whole load of NFS fans actually want to avoid having an "Underground 3" but you'd have to admit, Underground 2 was a very solid game and probably the best game they actually had. Now the whole idea EA has with actually releasing 2 different games: 1 for the old classic NFS fans and 1 where you can customise a car to your own liking. But please EA/Black Box, DON'T make another Shift. The concept of driving on the street in the illegal scene sold very good. Even other game companies actually tried to feed off the formula. And quite frankly they didn't succeed as good as you did. Also actually containing parts you can buy in store would be very nice to have. Considering not everyone wants to drive a totally riced out machine with parts from Underground 2. I'd hate to admit it but most of the bodykits there were really ugly! Detailed engine tuning could also be a good pointerin the future, but actually don't add the whole dyno fuction like you guys did in Underground 2. Engine swaps: VERY good idea but not properly excecuted as it should be. The fun part of engine swapping is the art of putting an LS1 engine in a MX-5 And not just only putting in a random 20B rotary engine. Drivetrain swapping could also be a good idea in the future since alot of tuners actually do that nowadays. Also I'm a big fan of actually deciding of proper interior tuning. What kind of gauges you actually want in your car and what style seat you want. Your car should be an image of what YOU want to make of it. It's the same in reality. A good example of interior tning is probably combining a little bit of what they had in C1 Grand Prix for the PS2, the seat changing in Pro street and the customising in Juiced 2 and Midnight Club Los Angeles. Overall the customising should be finely detailled and actually letting the players decide if they want to make a show car with lots of bling-bling, audio and neon or just a fully fledged works machine for the streets with no interior, rollcage and the whole deal.

What would be a good idea is to actually moving the series from the states to another country like Japan. As we all know the tuning scene is huge there and it actually does not only count for the drifting scene. For the people that actually don't know the wangan highway or the Shutokou series, google it. You would actually be amazed of what kind of cars drive there. The canyon-races you used to have in Carbon is actually the same as a Touge run in any given Kaido Racer game or Initial D game. If you want to keep the game actually in the states, just combine a lot of factors in the map. Such as: Downtown, suburbs, mountains etc.

Choice of cars is also a very important deal for me. Although I personally am not a great fan of muscle cars and european cars/exotics. I feel that some brands and alot of models are indeed missing in the NFS series. If you really want to compete with Gran Turismo & Forza, go with the amount of cars that those 2 games have and just put them in a completely different formula (as stated above) Personally I'd think you guys could excecute that really good, and there is actually a market for this kind of game.

User Generated Content? YES PLEASE!!!! There are ALOT of talented guys out there that can make really good things for these games. Vinyls, cars, rims you name it. Other games used to have this and actually a large community gathered to make content for such a game. But since game companies actually don't cover that anymore, communities actually start to fall apart. Which is a darn shame though.

Just to put everything in a nutshell. I personally want a tuner game with detailled interior, exteror and mechanical tuning. A whole roster of different cars wether they are common, rare prototypes, tuner, european tuner, exotic, muscle. Different types of scenery, weather and races. User generated content is actually a must in my eyes. Your own choice of music. and if I've missed anything please just feel free to comment on this.

[quote=TAKUMISVT]One thing that I want to say first: Keep out the rock music in the games? Dumbest idea ever[/quote]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdVZi_VXKi8

Yeah.

User Generated Content? YES PLEASE!!!! There are ALOT of talented guys out there that can make really good things for these games. Vinyls, cars, rims you name it. Other games used to have this and actually a large community gathered to make content for such a game. But since game companies actually don't cover that anymore, communities actually start to fall apart. Which is a darn shame though.

Just to put everything in a nutshell. I personally want a tuner game with detailled interior, exteror and mechanical tuning. A whole roster of different cars wether they are common, rare prototypes, tuner, european tuner, exotic, muscle. Different types of scenery, weather and races. User generated content is actually a must in my eyes. Your own choice of music. and if I've missed anything please just feel free to comment on this.

yessssss,i spend hours desiging graphics on test drive,id love to be able to do vinyls.

this thread Rocks,a lot of Reading!! but well worth it
theres some great stuff and overviews of past nfs games as well.

i thoroughly enjoyed this thread so far,hoping EA actually Reads this topic as well.

When I'm nostalgic I create most beautiful cars ever.

http://i43.tinypic.com/nxq4hg.jpg
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This is my idea for a perfect nfs game,
1, bring nfs back to its roots by making it hot pursuit style. You have no idea about all the fans dying to see another hot pursuit game by blackbox.
2,make the car physics real. In hot pursuit 2 you could actually PIT your opponents when your a racer or a cop but in critereon's remake you couldn't do so because th rear would swing back to positiong without even causing any loss of traction. How could they make a police chase game where the only way to arrest the speeders was to smash them?
3,Make it have free roam in a map where there are large towns connected by long scenic highways and rural roads.
4,make it so so you can call for backup when you are being the cop. The thing I found annoying in critereon's hot pursuit was that you were the only unit even though the dispatcher keeps on saying "all units".
5,keep the busted and evade bar like in most wanted because I thought it was a great idea. It would even work in the hot pursuit style.
6,make the fwd cars handle differently from the rwd cars.

Please let blackbox make the next nfs game, I now they screwed up but who doesn't once in a while?

I don't know if I wrote this,but:
We want LAn and splitscreen multiplayer. Tnx.

Just passed Most Wanted again. I'm crazy as hell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuKbTla1HZ0