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ColdNCocky
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I'll make a Madden 12 wishlist as soon as I find out how Madden 11 did. I still wish Superstar was revamped. The current Superstar is uninspired, and thanks to everyone for your feedback on my Superstar thoughts, but here is something I think can be fit into Madden 11 before production this July.
The crowd is outright HARD to listen to. Sure, there are plenty of bigger things to be able to fix or change that would affect the game more, but this is something i think can be tweaked (depending on the program that triggers the crowd noise.) (Alot of this stuff is already on the game, but the current level of "white noise" rather than cheering dulls your ears into not hearing it anymore) The crowd needs a wider range of volume and sound. By volume, i mean the crowd should:
Sound more like cheering, instead of white noise, make it sound like a stadium full of people yelling YEAH! or WOOO! in a high pitched voice. The crowd shouldn't be heard the WHOLE time, just in moments of importance or moments of glory. My main problem with the Super Bowls in Madden is that there is no glory in any of it because all of it pretty much seems the same, the entire season blends in together like a bunch of white noise, and the crowd is a perfect representation of it. There should be more to it than just another game, and just another crowd. Have different recordings for different stadiums, make the sound level at Honolulu and Buffalo be low, Washington and Houston be medium, and Minnesota and New Orleans be high. This way, its subtle but the player can still tell when he or she is having an away game because the crowd is a different recording. This will also allow things like team specific chants and player specific names being called. Like in Dallas when the crowd used to call "MOOSE" when Daryl Johnston would touch the ball. Here are some of the things that I wanted in the crowd. Alot of them are already in the game, but you cant really tell because after a while, you just tune out the crowd since it sounds so horrible.
1. Go up on away teams third downs while the game is still in reach.
2. Even more so if the game is on the line with this third down.
3. Even more so during games with division rivals
4. Even MORE so in the playoffs
5. The crowd should get quiet during blowouts, after a big play by the away team(silencing the big crowd at the Superdome)
6. The crowd should get quiet during measurements(in game engine!! enough with those annoying, unskippable cut scenes) and then react to the result of the measurement.
7. The crowd should react to flags
8. Crowd should get quiet during injuries. And then cheer if the guy is ok.(Unless you're in Philadelphia, some of those fans aren't human)
Just use whatever triggers are in place for the current crowd noise. Another part of the crowd noise that needs serious upgrades are the different sounds a crowd should make:
1.Cheering for their team
2. Booing for flags or if you are playing in Philadelphia, for the home team (lol, im just teasing them)
3. J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets
4. Defense.. Defense..
Things like these are needed more often in place of the white noise that is currently on Madden. I know that sometimes the crowd can sound like that, but make it more dynamic so that listening to a Madden game doesnt have to be such an ear sore. Some of these things are (kind of) already in place, but it is not that noticeable when the white noise just gets higher every once in a while. The sound needs to be more organic, NCAA does a nice job of this and the difference is pretty subtle, but makes a HUGE difference.
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CJnAtlFalcons
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xbox.BADBOYEDDIE8 wrote:I have a feeling it will be Gus Johnson for the new commentary and I wish they do something about the crowd to make it more loud and make home field advantage to be the 12th person and a way to effect the team rating, so Home games can mean something more
I do agree with you, but they shouldn't do to much to the crowd in such a way where it will make it harder for the oppenent to play an away game. Because then nobody would want to play an away game. It would be hard to find a game online and such, if you know what I mean. They should just make it so the crowd as more enthusiasm, and they should know when to yell, like when a running back shoots through a hole and gets about 10 yards, then the crowd should recognize that. And not only should there be yelling, but there should be a lot of booing from the crowd also, vice versa. If the running back gets hit behind the line or gets stopped on 3rd down, then the crowd should recognize that.
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ColdNCocky
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Also i would like to see EA have commentary that sounds like commentary. Chris Collinsworth sounds horrible in the recording studio. Get voice actors that probably won't cost as much and have them really commentate a game. Have real conversations the way NBA 2K10 did, with the commentators interrupting each other for "real time" big plays. The first time i heard that, i thought, "man, why can't EA think of these things?"
I have to say, i think the problem is that EA hires the best of the best because it is such a big company, then in all of their "genius" they forget the little things that make these games fun and interesting. I never thought 2K sports was on par (football wise) with EA, as a sim player, I never found the 2K gameplay rewarding or entertaining on any level near Madden. However, they seem to have all the good ideas that Madden overlooks. I mean, a quality pregame and halftime show, even computer generated highlights from other games, that's pretty far ahead of its time.
Don't get me wrong, I love what EA has done with Madden, especially the last two years, but while the gameplay is superb (for those of you that like to whine, I agree that they miss alot of the little things that would really make the game great, but the things they've done as far as gameplay have really (technologically) impressed me.), the rest of it hasn't really evolved at the same rate. Presentation is getting better, but after more than a few years, is still far behind its competition from 2004. Franchise saw its first upgrade last year with making scouting matter, and having balanced draft classes. Superstar mode still remains in shambles. Its actually taken leaps and bounds backwards since the first time it was introduced.
Oh by the way, before i get too much hate mail for this, Im using the sliders settings provided by versus(look him up on youtube) in order to do away with all the motion shift EA likes to use to make the game harder. If nothing else ever gets fixed with gameplay, try to find a way to become more challenging without having to cheat.
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VImassive28
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I think what they should do is improve superstar mode. madden 06's superstar was the best i still play that superstar. I loved the events that you can do on your calender like madden bowl, interviews, contract signings, movie auditions, and o yeah training camp minicamp dates it was beutiful. not to mention the promotions form apartment to mansion advertisments, barber shops tatoos and your cell phone it was great. just copy madden 06's superstar to madden 11 it will be great. another thing to add to super star is a draft presentation you should be able to see your player walk up and take the jersey. you should also see him talking to his agent and take interviews. last but not least if you look at nba 2k10' superstar mode you can see when your not in the game you can watch the defense form the bench add that to the game. let you be fined and it will hurt you in your income and possibly send you back if you back into an appartment if you doit to much this can happen by being disruptive in locker rooms saying wrong things and fights! when you come out of ncaa 11 show a hilight real about you and analyst talking about you like kirk herbstreit mike mayock mel kiper and and the draft day crew. if you guys can get that to madden 11 where i live you get a lot of sales. this will especially have me coming back to the game.
For franchise mode madden 06's was still the best but is competed today only because of the extra point and the gameplay. don't get me wrong madden 10 franchise is great i mean its probably is the best, but every year needs an improvement. add create a playbook which will alllow you to either combine a teams playbook with another teams or draw up your own plays in wild cat to singleback and etc. . add trainning camp like in 06 show position battles have daily mourning afternoon and night practices on three days a week have scouting combine senior bowl. please have different broadcasting stations presentations like espn,cbs,fox,nflnetwork which is football stations not to mention stations personnal broadcasters and analyst in both halftime and game time such as chris berman ditka tom jackson espn halftimers and broadcasters jon gruden stuart mike tirico jaworki (ESPN) even sideline reporters suzy kolber and rachel nichols. Same with NFLNet sideline reporters alex flanigan analist rich eisen deion sanders warren sapp jamie dukes cbs and fox reporters to.keep extra point but add that but during that please have commentators speak of our plays during halftime and extra point while they look at our plays. and have the player get mad for spots like joey porter ochocinco or fights in the game which can result in fines or players in jail but will be very rare and only for the year. if they have an outburst you can fine them and will help salary cap or they will ask to leave and you can hear it on the tony bruno radio show. please allow the people to upload their own music because frankly your music suucks these few thing can really have the people in the VI. So please read! and as dudes add cheerleaders. (wink).
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PPEVikes
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Sorry if someone already mentioned this, but I did not want to read the whole thread.
If they could fix the play action passing. Too often the defenders will not react to the play action and it takes too long for the quarterback to cycle back to passing mode before the defenders are in his face.
I have tried it after running successfully on the defense, but the defenders rarely bite on the play action and even if they do, by the time the system allows the quarterback to make a pass the defender is already making the tackle.
Another important note is create a better AI and stop having the CPU cheat to win or be competitive. I have noticed many times where the CPU will influence how a player will react. I could be mistaken and it is just a lack of animation, but after running it in instant replay on slow motion I've come to the conclusion that the CPU is cheating.
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cable_dawg602
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xbox.CJnAtlFalcons wrote:
xbox.BADBOYEDDIE8 wrote:I have a feeling it will be Gus Johnson for the new commentary and I wish they do something about the crowd to make it more loud and make home field advantage to be the 12th person and a way to effect the team rating, so Home games can mean something more
I do agree with you, but they shouldn't do to much to the crowd in such a way where it will make it harder for the oppenent to play an away game. Because then nobody would want to play an away game. It would be hard to find a game online and such, if you know what I mean. They should just make it so the crowd as more enthusiasm, and they should know when to yell, like when a running back shoots through a hole and gets about 10 yards, then the crowd should recognize that. And not only should there be yelling, but there should be a lot of booing from the crowd also, vice versa. If the running back gets hit behind the line or gets stopped on 3rd down, then the crowd should recognize that.
i agree with this aspect not that people would dislike playing away but in the NFL these athletes pretty much played in hostile college games and pretty much know how to deal with the pressure ya know. Maybe crowd noise could instead impact the moral of the team so when crowd noise is upbeat the home team plays a lil better ( enough to be noticed but not enough to decide the game) and if the visiting team is able to silence the home crowd maybe they get a boost to play a lil better (again enough to be noticed but not enough to decide the game)
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finswin
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My wish is but a simple one. Could we please have the Football spin the right direction(clockwise for righthanded QBs and counter-clockwise for lefties.) Thank you.
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dbzman1289
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I would love to see a training camp again. Madden 10 really upset me by not having the training camp in the franchise, I always use it to progress my rookies before i put them in a game.
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rickeem21
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Hii I really think that Madden should make a huge feature on the offense side of the ball making the wide receivers. Being able to turn around AND being able to go up for the ball like the safety is able to do I think is call strafe the receiver should be able to turn around on a deep ball in go up to catch it like the safeties and corner backs r able too I truly BC this make a really huge out in a game
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cable_dawg602
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cem_ea_id.rickeem21 wrote:Hii I really think that Madden should make a huge feature on the offense side of the ball making the wide receivers. Being able to turn around AND being able to go up for the ball like the safety is able to do I think is call strafe the receiver should be able to turn around on a deep ball in go up to catch it like the safeties and corner backs r able too I truly BC this make a really huge out in a game
Wr's do strafe in M 10 I believe but only on I think pro or something, WR's having the ability to strafe gave rise to rocket catching, leading the defender off of you then strafing to the ball then jumping straight up and catching a ball that would normally be launched over anybody's head
Until the play in the secondary is overhauled and revamped I think we'll just have to sit out on this one, but we'll just have to wait and see how big of an impact catch tuning will impact the game before we make any kind of speculation.
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finswin
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cem_ea_id.finswin wrote:My wish is but a simple one. Could we please have the Football spin the right direction(clockwise for righthanded QBs and counter-clockwise for lefties.) Thank you.
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I want there to be two player superstar mode.
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Celm0-101387
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Well my opinion its based on what i saw on internet ivdeos comments etc.. and by playing madden 08 on pc.. i hope ian cummings read this post and also that u guys comment about it as well... to make this franchise game better sometimes i just get frustrated playing it
1) kicking game
its entirely awfull ... i have had season with guys barely 90 KPWR 86 ACUR with 33/33 55 Yds long on franchise mode ... i believe kicks accuracy should be determined by distance and situation ... everyone knows that if u have a kicker with 90+ kickPWR 85 ACCUR u just have to drive the ball to the 30 -35 rival yard line (about a 47-53 yard FG) and its certainly your kick will make it.. even if its the 4th quarter in a SB .. u still know your kicker will make it .. unless you mess it up with the stick ... but we all know that in real Football it isnt like that coaches know that from that distances probably its a 50/50 chance and with a kicker that mediocre it will be even less ..
so what i mean its like a progressive by distance system .. i mean like the cursor zone for a correct FG (that triangle red zone) make it to move randomly (not with a certain frequency) passively or agressively or in between accordingly to the kicker accuracy , in equal weight to the current FG distance and also the situation 4th quarter game Wining FG .. so that this Kick System responds differently to the situations its not the same a cheap shot in the 2 yd in the 2nd QTR .. than a 40+ Yd FG in the last seconds of the game.. (it isnt just to put a dramatical camera angle to kick the FG with the same static system) the kicker gets nervous depending on the situation ... and u know its better to have vinatieri (clutch kicker a weapon that u will apreciate he will not be intimidated by that situation and the distance) than Nate Kaeding (nefast playoff performance)..
and also u will not play in that confort zone knowing that u only have to get the ball to your opponents 30 -35 yrd .. now u have tu push it to the 15-20 ( 32 - 37 yds FG ) and even with that that wouldnt even be a cheap shot (using the flickering system that i mention) , changing a 50 yds drive ( assuming touch back or a decent return) into a 60 -70 yard drive playing more fairly and no so conservative playing call , with the current FG system you are in the 32 yrd and in an 3rd and 3 take your chances and just run the ball and fail to convert the 1st-10 then u just kick the FG easily, with this new system now if u fail u have to choose to the 45+ FG with a kicker that will make the FG with a Coin toss Chances of 50-50 or roll the dice on 4th and 2 or maybe u are force to play that 3rd and 3 more agressively (conclsusion u now are in a tough spot not like before when every FG its a cheap shot)
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