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Joined: 09/10/2011 10:14:32
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Ok that's nice but remember this
BAL one of the top 5 D's in the lg
NE-31 or 32nd in pass D, like I said he should have had a good game and to be honest I was expecting more from him he still dissapointed me and still doesn't have my saying he is in Romo and the Ryan club or what I call the 2nd tire of QB's
Note: After this game Webb needs to be higher than Ike, he has way more picks and plays better than Ike boost of 3-5 so a 90 to 92.

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Evans, smith, boldin, pitta+ (Evans has had a great 2 games, the one "drop" in the endzone, he was dbl covered i think and it was a tough catch for anyone)

Joe Flacco ++

Ricky Williams * + (he had a great two games, I think if he plays next season he will have a great year... "

Leech + (maybe not his catch, LOL)

*The entire D should be looked at and have added stats... they have played amazing. What they did today against TOM BRADY and the PATRIOTS was incredible. I don't see how they play any better. Especially the secondary.


ray lewis, ray rice should either stay or drop a LITTLE (RAY RICE's CARRY SHOULD BE HIGHER, HOWEVER)


cundif - ( :[ poor guy. )

M. Oher -

E. Dixon -


The Ravens should be an elite team. No question about it... They proved it against the Texans and Pats.

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hmmmm. GREAT SEASON GUYS.

Flacco played well.....

have a great off season




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srms6 wrote:I'm not here to complain but explain why Flacco should get a bump, that's all I want.


He plays mistake free football. He does his job, and he wins games.

He made one mistake today, and out-dueled the best QB ( best playoff qb at the very least) in the league. Are you serious? or? He showed his mobility, throwing on the run, accuracy, elusiveness, what else do you want? He couldnt have played anybetter.

The first playoff game, he played mistake free and WON THE GAME. That was his job. No turnovers. 2 TD passes.
K, THX.

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BlinDDollarS wrote:
srms6 wrote:I'm not here to complain but explain why Flacco should get a bump, that's all I want.


He plays mistake free football. He does his job, and he wins games.

He made one mistake today, and out-dueled the best QB ( best playoff qb at the very least) in the league. Are you serious? or? He showed his mobility, throwing on the run, accuracy, elusiveness, what else do you want? He couldnt have played anybetter.

The first playoff game, he played mistake free and WON THE GAME. That was his job. No turnovers. 2 TD passes.
K, THX.
OBIVOUSLY you did not read this
BAL one of the top 5 D's in the lg
NE-31 or 32nd in pass D, like I said he should have had a good game and to be honest I was expecting more from him he still dissapointed me and still doesn't have my saying he is in Romo and the Ryan club or what I call the 2nd tire of QB's

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Matt Ryan in the 2nd tier? He needs to at least win a playoff game...

I love how people are still criticising Flacco, give the man his due.



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srms6 wrote:
BlinDDollarS wrote:
srms6 wrote:I'm not here to complain but explain why Flacco should get a bump, that's all I want.


He plays mistake free football. He does his job, and he wins games.

He made one mistake today, and out-dueled the best QB ( best playoff qb at the very least) in the league. Are you serious? or? He showed his mobility, throwing on the run, accuracy, elusiveness, what else do you want? He couldnt have played anybetter.

The first playoff game, he played mistake free and WON THE GAME. That was his job. No turnovers. 2 TD passes.
K, THX.
OBIVOUSLY you did not read this
BAL one of the top 5 D's in the lg
NE-31 or 32nd in pass D, like I said he should have had a good game and to be honest I was expecting more from him he still dissapointed me and still doesn't have my saying he is in Romo and the Ryan club or what I call the 2nd tire of QB's


I'm sorry, I didn't read that. My response:

How could he have POSSIBLY played better? He made safe accurate throws all game o.o

I guess you need an Aaron Rodgers or Drew Bree's type style before you admit a QB did a good job, where you throw 2/3rds of the time, and make dangerous high risk high reward passes...

To be fair, we had a "better chance than not" to win the game outright before o.t. and missing that field goal probably isn't even statistically significant x.x. Id say we had a 2/3rds chance to win it outright before O.T. But I'm not making excuses, if you cant execute, your going to lose.

If Evans makes a hero catch, Dixon doesn't lose the game with the false start, If we dont trip on our own feet and not get out of bounds, ect... Also. All the completions that we had were fundamental and WERN'T "lucky"...

Main Point:

Flacco couldn't have played any better. He made safe accurate throws all day, showed his mobility, and the Ravens don't WANT high risk high reward passes. How can you expect any more from him? He played to near perfection...

Lets be honest, the Ravens lost the game on pretty much a missed extra point by a pro-bowl type kicker (one of the most popular kickers in the league).



Bal is top 3* defense (In my opinion top 2, possibly even the best). They couldn't have played any better. The Ravens were playing THE PATRIOTS and THEIR HOME. What they did today was impressive at least.

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Flacco threw an INT right? Can't really call his game perfect.






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Cool

Kruger+
Webb+++++++++++++
J Smith +
T Smith +
Pollard +
Leach +99
Pitta +

Ellerbe------------------------------
Cundiff----------------------------
O Line ---------------------------
D Line -----------------------------



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steelersJMB wrote:Flacco threw an INT right? Can't really call his game perfect.
how about spikes just made a great play 99.99999999999999999% percent of the time that is a completion or swatted down. Almost never will you see any player reach out and make a one handed catch when they are clearly beat amazing play nothing to be taken away from flacco on that one the guy just made a great play.



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Spikes made a good play, you can't expect a QB to never go without interceptions because even when there is an open man and a good throw there is always time for a defender to jump on it, there's nearly always going to be pressure and lets face it, there's very rarely an open man. Tom Brady threw four picks (with only two counting) in that game but no-one is saying he's lost his edge.



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That loss broke my heart a lil, took me a while to even think of the team's ratings and possible offseason moves... but it was a great game by both teams and it definitely showed something about this year's Ravens team.

... I see Flacco and Webb getting the most increases for the Ravens. Boldin, Lewis, and Pitta will get a lil bit.

Don't think Cundiff or Evans should get any decreases... They just weren't clutch, they still produced.



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Secondary should shoot up, Tom Brady had a 36 game streak of throwing at least one TD pass, you can't blame inconsistency, given the record. Ravens defense in general came up big when it needed, and was good in the red zone.



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RavensChaos wrote:Secondary should shoot up, Tom Brady had a 36 game streak of throwing at least one TD pass, you can't blame inconsistency, given the record. Ravens defense in general came up big when it needed, and was good in the red zone.


Ravens defense did play well, but Bradys streak should have continued as Gronkowski got open for a touchdown and TB just completely missed him.

Unfortunately some of the Ravens OLine should take a hit, especially Birk.. Vince Wilfork manhandled them.

L Webb should continue to see increases, he makes interceptions that some wide receivers in this league couldn't make.

Flacco played pretty well, he should get a boost. Torrey Smith had some nice plays as well.


And if you guys are saying that Flacco should get a pass for his pick to spikes, then you have to give a pass to Brady as well. The two picks that counted were GREAT plays by the defense. Webbs catch was amazing, and the pick off the tip pass in the end zone was another one. And saying Brady had 4 picks but two were wiped off.. One of them was after an obvious off sides.. So he clearly knew he had a free play. And another was after I believe Welker got held. But I don't think Flacco should go down because Spikes made a great play.. A play I don't think most people thought/think he is capable of consistently making.
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