PC guys dont deserve BC 2

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You have to remember. The developers are making the games as we speak, so they can't really be here 24/7. I do agree though that they need to inform the community for often and they are heading in the right direction by going into the forums and stuff. If you head over to the EA uk forums, they are more likely to post there than here. Also you get faster replies from the community than here.

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That's exactly what I did when I was a early supporter of BF:BC but it's ridiculous you should have to go to forums of another country in order to get responses. Whatever DICE developer that was there to answer our questions disappeared after a week or two. I swear it's written somewhere in EA's/DICE's contract that they are forbidden to communicate with their fans on these forums.

We're they're best source of feedback and potential paying customers and they could certainly start earning my trust if the game's developers pop up on here every now and then. It doesn't have to be everyday, that'd be great though but *, look at what Bungie does, they release weekly newsletters. Volition has been on their forums for Red Faction: Guerilla everyday answering people's questions and concerns, and not just their community manager, but members of the team from programmers to Quality Assurance people. Those are the companies that get my money and trust because they listen to their fanbase. Those are the companies I uphold and support.

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cem_ea_id.Evil_Paladin wrote:Before I start, remember this is controversy what all Im about to say. These are opinions stated by me and only me and Im asking to either be set straight or a friendly debate. Constructive critism on both parts are welcomed. When EA and DICE announce 1943 and BC 2 and later info were released on them. I notice PC fans mostly had a problem with it, degrading console games and console friendly games. They dogged EA and DICE and all EA DICE wants to do is make great games. Well the PC guys dont deserve it! Sure it started with them but cant they see now days consoles and PC can share the lime light.

But no, instead they want to hate on it. I have been talked down to by PC guys and watch my upcoming fav 1943 be dogged and I am mad as hell and Im going to stand up for it! Sure, DICE and EA want a profit but they want to also make good games. PC guys are always like if it isnt 64 players then Im not buying, without even giving it a second glance. Not all PC guys are like this but most of the ones I met are. They downgraded, spit in the face and hated on 1943 and BC 2 without knowing more info on BC 2.

EA does not care about making a good game for people who love them, its all about the money nothing more, Dice maybe but even then
Any battlefield remake or new release for the console is just giving the bottom feeders(console gamers) a chance to see what battlefield is like subtracting the skill,variety of vehicles, commanding abilities and the actual team play.
The fact console humpers cant accept is that a console is a dumbed down version of a PC.WHY is this people may ask? Well its because people are either lazy or too stupid to install a game on a PC or afford a decent computer. Now i dont mid console gaming i like it myself, but to go and say a PS3 or Xbox is better then a PC is down right stupid. PS3 and Xbox is just a PC without an OS and the best parts of 2005 PC hardware subtract other features.
IF console gamers want 64 player maps/games they should buy a bloody PC for crying out loud. Enough of hardware talk now the game

Alright the game now. I would assume that anyone who plays(present tense) BC has never played BF2. If hardcore console gamers knew a damn thing about console limitations they would know that if you tried to play a big map like Dragon Valley on a damn console not only would it lag your xbox or PS3 would explode(Not really but it would overheat fast) Lets be realistic so the maps which are massive,+ aerial support(jets and choppers)+commander assets and abilities aswell as the squad and commander interface is not compatible with consoles. Now if you just want 64 maps for consoles then you can go F*** right off cuz thats not what BF is all about. Personally i enjoy 40-50 player maps on BF2. I have piloted heli's and jets in BF2 and if it is already a difficult challenege for non-expert then flying on a console would be like driving a car without a steering wheel(in other words impossible). For PS3 players flying in any BF game is nothing like WarHawk.
And lastly PC gamers have every right to be pissed right off. Considering its been about 3-4 years without any news is definately something to be annoyed by. And do you know why they wont admit to making a BF3? Probably because there wont be one for some time even if they claim it. In terms of buisness a big company like EA isnt going to sit down for tea and discuss what the player wants. It would be a lie to say EA hasnt made or released good games, but to soil the name and remake it to be todays standard shooter, regen and rampage. The thing that made BF2 amazing was that the lack of a team would result in utter defeat. When it comes to a game like COD4 sure its fun but any game that one player can carry the team is just bad, you may be skilled but a game that allows that isnt good. I dont always smile at the fact that BF2 is based on alot of team work but it fits the game.

THE POINT IS, console gamers can cry or preach ignorance, but to be honest i dont think any 10 year old can dish out insults to PC gamers.
in conclusion-console gamers think console gaming is better only because it needs little or no maitnance.
PS-sorry this post was in quote form

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If you want to play a remake of an old game that came out 6 years ago then be my guest. Go buy BF 1942. I'm pretty sure you could afford it since the complete collection is only 9.99 at best buy. If i remember correctly they already tried to bring BF2 to the consoles. X-box and PS2 anyone? I recall that game being a complete flop that was total garbage. Console gaming will never stack up to PC Gaming. Hardware and gameplay wise. WW2 is played out and futuristic games aren't so great either. I think console gamers have it too good. They like to have things handed to them on a silver platter. PC Gamers are BUYING customers too. Don't hate on us because you have to pay 5-20 dollars for DLC. We basically get new maps, patches, add-ons, etc for free. If you have ever played BF2 on the PC you would know that. Since that's the only way to play on ranked servers. Personally I've always enjoyed playing BF2 more than COD 4. Dice and EA should get their heads out of the console gutter asap. I'm sure there are a lot of PC gamers out there that would agree with me.

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Im a PC owner who played every BF game out there.

And Bad Company is the best by far

And ya i do see alot of PC fanboys basically say BC 1 is trash.

But they still want to throw in their 2 cents about how BC 2 should be more like BF 2.
I think the OP was to harsh and bashed PC gamers. But the same time, i really dont want BC 2 to change that much, so as to please people who love BF2.

ps3.whatzshankin wrote:If you want to play a remake of an old game that came out 6 years ago then be my guest. Go buy BF 1942. I'm pretty sure you could afford it since the complete collection is only 9.99 at best buy. If i remember correctly they already tried to bring BF2 to the consoles. X-box and PS2 anyone? I recall that game being a complete flop that was total garbage. Console gaming will never stack up to PC Gaming. Hardware and gameplay wise. WW2 is played out and futuristic games aren't so great either. I think console gamers have it too good. They like to have things handed to them on a silver platter. PC Gamers are BUYING customers too. Don't hate on us because you have to pay 5-20 dollars for DLC. We basically get new maps, patches, add-ons, etc for free. If you have ever played BF2 on the PC you would know that. Since that's the only way to play on ranked servers. Personally I've always enjoyed playing BF2 more than COD 4. Dice and EA should get their heads out of the console gutter asap. I'm sure there are a lot of PC gamers out there that would agree with me.

Now you got a head up your butt. We deserve to have a decent battlefield game, just as anyone on here, regardless of console. Hate to break your ignorant bubble, but console battlefield can be almsot as good as the PC one, if the developers try a little harder. It has nothing to do with the gameplay, if it does, why don't you tell that to Codemasters who are making OFP: DR, maybe they can teach you a lesson or two about how weak the consoles are.

I don't think the console gamers know what a great service the PC Battlefield series is doing them. Console gamers will now get to experience Battlefield like it should be. It's worth noting the Squad, class and unlock system that EA are announcing for BC2 is exactly what has been the norm in Battlefield 2142 for the past two and a half years. Gameplay aside (BF2 vs BF2142 is always an ugly argument), this system was by far the best they have developed in any of the Battlefield games to date. Not to mention the rock/paper/scissors balance. I've also read that the PC Version will support 40 players, only the consoles will be restricted to 24. So what we should have, hopefully, is a game that takes all the modern warfare aspects that are so great about BF2, combine it with the balance and unlock system in BF2142 to create a well evolved Battlefield title in Bad Company 2.

I for one will be buying this game for my PC. Hell, I'll probably even upgrade my PC to get the very most out of it. I can tell you for damn sure I won't be getting it for my 360 though, how anyone can shoot using a thumb stick to aim is beyond me.

So instead of having this PC vs Console debate (as most of us have both anyway), why don't we just embrace this title and give EA as much feedback as possible to create what we all want?

PC guys deserve BC 2, BC 2 can play PC,PS3,XBOX 360, I bet you just dont have a PC.

cem_ea_id.BlackListed wrote:then u have never obviously heard of a quickscope sniper......(or shotgun....or smg....or m16....or any gun for that matter....)

and honestly if u seriously r sayin o hey this game is garbage cuz it doesnt have 64 player battles then ur being ignorant. game companies are finnaly starting to realize that the best game sales are on the consoles not the comp any more. the consoles i hate to tell u r going to be the future of gaming.

Offcourse consoles are not the future of gaming, because: 1 it cant be upgraded so, a pc gets faster every week. 2 pcs are the design and test platforms for all games offcourse also consoles, and the pc can handle more then a console can ever do. This is just fact. As for bf fans talking down on console owners, thats because all the console games are so easy that its that fact that makes some people look down on them. Like no teamplaying etc. I personally believe consoles are for kids, but thats my opinion. I do respect console players so i dont mind EA and DICE making bf titles for it, but we want bigger then 64 people maps, squad based team playing, just like bf2, but bigger better slicker and just as difficult haha..

MAIN.xSpyder124 wrote:I don't think the console gamers know what a great service the PC Battlefield series is doing them. Console gamers will now get to experience Battlefield like it should be. It's worth noting the Squad, class and unlock system that EA are announcing for BC2 is exactly what has been the norm in Battlefield 2142 for the past two and a half years. Gameplay aside (BF2 vs BF2142 is always an ugly argument), this system was by far the best they have developed in any of the Battlefield games to date. Not to mention the rock/paper/scissors balance. I've also read that the PC Version will support 40 players, only the consoles will be restricted to 24. So what we should have, hopefully, is a game that takes all the modern warfare aspects that are so great about BF2, combine it with the balance and unlock system in BF2142 to create a well evolved Battlefield title in Bad Company 2.

I for one will be buying this game for my PC. Hell, I'll probably even upgrade my PC to get the very most out of it. I can tell you for damn sure I won't be getting it for my 360 though, how anyone can shoot using a thumb stick to aim is beyond me.

So instead of having this PC vs Console debate (as most of us have both anyway), why don't we just embrace this title and give EA as much feedback as possible to create what we all want?

Nicely said, amen to that, and indeed playing a FPS game with a controller is also beyond me, better that they dont make mixed servers cause a mouse will dominate

BF_SUB.Paz30 wrote:Nicely said, amen to that, and indeed playing a FPS game with a controller is also beyond me, better that they dont make mixed servers cause a mouse will dominate

Actually, I don't know about that. I've played my son on Halo and he f***ing pwns me! Whenever we lan 2142 I pwn him right back, so I guess it's whatever you're used to.

the thing is bad company is a console game... im fine with them brining it to pc but just keep it the same as the console and dont change it to the pc guys bf2 needs... its bad company not bf3
if they have to give the pc guys more players then thell just have to figure out a way to do it on the console aswell
id hate it if the pc version were diferent from the console game...
so yea if they are going to change 1 bit about the game just becouse the pc gets it aswell ... i completely agree with the first poster! if not then i dont mind

I'm not having a shot at you, but have you even played Battlefield on the PC?

I've done both, and whilst Bad Company is terrific, it lacks the sort of squad interaction required to be successful on the PC versions. I think DICE have recognized this and hence the changes that are being made steer Bad Company 2 towards the PC variety of Battlefield, not the slightly watered down version that is for console. Like I've stated previously, I'm confident that Bad Company 2 will have the best of console and PC melded together. All the destruction and visual appeal of the console and all of the team work and precision of the PC variety.

I think the problem in this discussion is, that Console-Gamers and PC-Gamers (I'm one the last group) have a really different view on the battlefield games, which is connected to their way of playing them.
PC-Gamers play witch mouse and keyboard, they can aim very accurately in every direction and the have many buttons, which can they use.
I dont know how Console Gamers like to play, but I think they like it a bit faster and maybe less precise.

I think PC Gamers see in the new Battlefield a new possibility to get a teambased FPS with a strategy part, while Console gamers want an action game witch military scenario

MAIN.Late Goodbye wrote:I think the problem in this discussion is, that Console-Gamers and PC-Gamers (I'm one the last group) have a really different view on the battlefield games, which is connected to their way of playing them.
PC-Gamers play witch mouse and keyboard, they can aim very accurately in every direction and the have many buttons, which can they use.
I dont know how Console Gamers like to play, but I think they like it a bit faster and maybe less precise.

I think PC Gamers see in the new Battlefield a new possibility to get a teambased FPS with a strategy part, while Console gamers want an action game witch military scenario

I have CoD4 on both PC and Xbox. I tend to play similarly on each platform, though I will agree that it is much easier to aim with the mouse.

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