Alright jesus...I don't usually read the roster update blogs because it really is pathetic to listen to some of you people. There is such anger and hostility, it's really kind of comical. If someone is off by one or two points in their ratings is that THAT big of a deal? Is EA really the worst corporate entity in the world? Every other sentence typed by someone is "F&@#$*ING EA YOU S**". C'mon now everyone...

It seems also that people are so hung up on offensive stats and that is the basis for every players ratings. For instance, someone mentioned Kovalchuk should have his rankings along the same line as Ovie, Sid and Malkin...really? Last I checked he has yet to have a single season where he was a PLUS anything. He doesn't play defense, is known to dangle a bit...is he dynamic? Absolutely. Is he talented? Of course...but hockey is a two way game, it isn't soccer where the forwards don't have to play defense.

Also read on some post that Sid Crosby is no where near the player that Malkin or Ovechkin is...do you watch hockey? Crosby, since he came into this league (at 18 mind you), has had the weight of the NHL revival placed on his back. He takes far more abuse because of his name, who he is, than anyone else in this league. He is only 22, maturing before our eyes and he might very well score 60 goals for the first time ever. He is putting Malkin to shame in the PPG department, and is currently a PLUS while Malkin is a negative. Crosby handles far more responsiblity than Malkin on the ice, as centers usually do, and I think it's pretty obvious the the more talented linemates are Malkin's (Guerin is 928734873 years old. He was great earlier this decade - shell of his former self)...it's really absurd to hear some of you people talk. Ovechkin, though, the guy is a machine, might be the best player in the game right now. Key words: 'right now'. I remember in the playoffs when Sidney Crosby put the team on his back and carried the Penguins to the Stanley Cup, including carrying his team over Washington. Also, with a center's added defensive responsibilities, taking draws...I'm just not not ready to give Ovie the nod as THE best in the game yet, but he's sure getting close.

xbox.bMurr wrote:Alright jesus...I don't usually read the roster update blogs because it really is pathetic to listen to some of you people. There is such anger and hostility, it's really kind of comical. If someone is off by one or two points in their ratings is that THAT big of a deal? Is EA really the worst corporate entity in the world? Every other sentence typed by someone is "F&@#$*ING EA YOU S**". C'mon now everyone...

It seems also that people are so hung up on offensive stats and that is the basis for every players ratings. For instance, someone mentioned Kovalchuk should have his rankings along the same line as Ovie, Sid and Malkin...really? Last I checked he has yet to have a single season where he was a PLUS anything. He doesn't play defense, is known to dangle a bit...is he dynamic? Absolutely. Is he talented? Of course...but hockey is a two way game, it isn't soccer where the forwards don't have to play defense.

Also read on some post that Sid Crosby is no where near the player that Malkin or Ovechkin is...do you watch hockey? Crosby, since he came into this league (at 18 mind you), has had the weight of the NHL revival placed on his back. He takes far more abuse because of his name, who he is, than anyone else in this league. He is only 22, maturing before our eyes and he might very well score 60 goals for the first time ever. He is putting Malkin to shame in the PPG department, and is currently a PLUS while Malkin is a negative. Crosby handles far more responsiblity than Malkin on the ice, as centers usually do, and I think it's pretty obvious the the more talented linemates are Malkin's (Guerin is 928734873 years old. He was great earlier this decade - shell of his former self)...it's really absurd to hear some of you people talk. Ovechkin, though, the guy is a machine, might be the best player in the game right now. Key words: 'right now'. I remember in the playoffs when Sidney Crosby put the team on his back and carried the Penguins to the Stanley Cup, including carrying his team over Washington. Also, with a center's added defensive responsibilities, taking draws...I'm just not not ready to give Ovie the nod as THE best in the game yet, but he's sure getting close.

as far as the second and third paragraphs, i think the EA Forums may have just witnessed the Perfect Post...

except being a Pens fan and watching every game I think its safe to say that Guerin and Kunitz are better wingers than whoever the hell ends up on Geno's line. Guerin can still play. Kunitz has been hurt so we havent seen him much with Sid this year but I agree with the rest of everything.

Overall Need to be change:
Atlanta Thrashers:
*Maxim Afinogenov Old: 78 New: 81-82
*Tobias Enstrom: Old 80 New 85(41 Points as a Defense)
*Ondrej Pavelec Old: 77 New: 78-79
*Kari Lehtonen Old: 85 New: 79(Hasnt played a Game Yet)
*Johan Hedberg Old: 76 New: 80(2.52 Not bad)

There are several goalie ratings that need to be adjusted in the next update. There are more than a few overrated and underrated goaltenders I’ve noticed

Overrated:
Tim Thomas (8 - He lost his starting job to Rask and hasn't been anything like the Vezina winner of last season. I'd give him an 84 rating

Niklas Backstrom (8 - Like Thomas, not playing at the same All-Star level. He's not in the Top 25 in GAA or Save % among NHL goalies this season. I'd rate him an 85

Marty Turco (85) - His best days are behind him. I would make him an 83.

Carey Price (85) - Another guy that lost his starting job. Only an All Star because Montreal fans stuffed the balot. He should be an 80

Chris Osgood (84) - Again, lost starting job, best days are behind him. Should be a 79

Martin Biron (83) - He's been terrible this year. Not even on the active roster for the Islanders. 77 rating would be appropriate.

Mike Smith (81) - 30th in Save %, 36th in GAA. 77 rating for him

Jonas Gustavsson (81) - 38th in Save %, 39th in GAA. Gonna be riding the bench behind Giguere. 78 rating



Underrated:
Antti Niemi (81) - Best GAA, Top 10 Save % and a 14-4-1 record. He should at least an 85

Tuukka Rask (82) - 2nd in GAA, 3rd in Save %. He just took the starting job of the most recent Vezina winner. He is going to be an All Star for the next decade. 87 rating

Cristobal Huet (83) - He's playing great for Chicago. Along with Niemi, helping Chicago remain a top team in the NHL. 86 rating

Brian Elliot (77) - He is playing well. Not a top goalie, but he is at least an 81. There are a lot of goalie with better rating that aren't even starting or playing well.

Chris Mason (83) - He's playing well again this year after carrying STL on his back into the post season last season. 85 rating

Ilya Bryzgalov (86) - One of the best goalies in NHL this season. Should be an 88

Tomas Vokoun (86) - Same as Bryzgalov. 88

Current Top 20 rated goalies
1 Roberto Luongo 92
2 Martin Brodeur 91
3 Ryan Miller 90
4 Mikka Kiprusoff 88
5 Evgeni Nabokov 88
6 Henrik Lundqvist 88
7 Tim Thomas 88
8 Niklas Backstrom 88
9 Marc-Andre Fluery 87
10 Cam Ward 87
11 Ilya Bryzgalov 86
12 Tomas Vokoun 86
13 Jimmy Howard 85
14 Craig Anderson 85
15 Jaroslav Halak 85
16 Marty Turco 85
17 Carey Price 85
18 JS Giguere 85
19 Semyon Varlamov 85

New Top 20 rated goalies
1 Roberto Luongo 92
2 Martin Brodeur 91
3 Ryan Miller 90
4 Mikka Kiprusoff 88
5 Evgeni Nabokov 88
6 Henrik Lundqvist 88
7 Ilya Bryzgalov 88
8 Tomas Vokoun 88
9 Tuukka Rask 87
10 Marc-Andre Fluery 87
11 Cristobal Huet 86
12 Craig Anderson 86
13 Antti Niemi 85
14 Nicklas Backstrom 85
15 Cam Ward 85
16 Jimmy Howard 85
17 Craig Anderson 85
18 Jaroslav Halak 85
19 Chris Mason 85
20 JS Giguere 85

Just wondering when the next roster update is going to happen. I am a leaf fan and want to play with the newer looking team online.

Thanks in advance.

xbox.PittPens1787 wrote:

xbox.bMurr wrote:Alright jesus...I don't usually read the roster update blogs because it really is pathetic to listen to some of you people. There is such anger and hostility, it's really kind of comical. If someone is off by one or two points in their ratings is that THAT big of a deal? Is EA really the worst corporate entity in the world? Every other sentence typed by someone is "F&@#$*ING EA YOU S**". C'mon now everyone...

It seems also that people are so hung up on offensive stats and that is the basis for every players ratings. For instance, someone mentioned Kovalchuk should have his rankings along the same line as Ovie, Sid and Malkin...really? Last I checked he has yet to have a single season where he was a PLUS anything. He doesn't play defense, is known to dangle a bit...is he dynamic? Absolutely. Is he talented? Of course...but hockey is a two way game, it isn't soccer where the forwards don't have to play defense.

Also read on some post that Sid Crosby is no where near the player that Malkin or Ovechkin is...do you watch hockey? Crosby, since he came into this league (at 18 mind you), has had the weight of the NHL revival placed on his back. He takes far more abuse because of his name, who he is, than anyone else in this league. He is only 22, maturing before our eyes and he might very well score 60 goals for the first time ever. He is putting Malkin to shame in the PPG department, and is currently a PLUS while Malkin is a negative. Crosby handles far more responsiblity than Malkin on the ice, as centers usually do, and I think it's pretty obvious the the more talented linemates are Malkin's (Guerin is 928734873 years old. He was great earlier this decade - shell of his former self)...it's really absurd to hear some of you people talk. Ovechkin, though, the guy is a machine, might be the best player in the game right now. Key words: 'right now'. I remember in the playoffs when Sidney Crosby put the team on his back and carried the Penguins to the Stanley Cup, including carrying his team over Washington. Also, with a center's added defensive responsibilities, taking draws...I'm just not not ready to give Ovie the nod as THE best in the game yet, but he's sure getting close.

as far as the second and third paragraphs, i think the EA Forums may have just witnessed the Perfect Post...

except being a Pens fan and watching every game I think its safe to say that Guerin and Kunitz are better wingers than whoever the hell ends up on Geno's line. Guerin can still play. Kunitz has been hurt so we havent seen him much with Sid this year but I agree with the rest of everything.

i agree...those last 2 paragraphs are a thing of beauty. thanks for sharing a very well thought out and informative post.

[i]COME ON!!! Give us an update already! Dying to use the Leafs with Gigeure and Phaneuf! LETS GO EA!!!! Get on it![/i]

Backstrom is still under rated.. should have 99 passing because no one can saucer pass as good as him. Knubel and semin also need there ratings increased.. Semins shot power... and puck controll.. and passing knubels overall hes better then a 81..

Two quick thoughts:
1. I don't think we'll see another "players rating update" until mid to late March. And I very much agree with the post that suggests too many of those requesting increases for skaters are thinking offense only.

2. Next update: first of all, relax. I get so tired of all of you whining one week after an update for the next one. Every second week is solid - as for online play, live with it. It's not horrible.

And the next update should definitely wait until after Feb. 12 when the roster freeze goes into effect for the Olympics - there could very easily be trades in the next few days, and wouldn't you all prefer to have EA wait and then do an update which includes those trades?

I think EA has made a tremendous effort this year with updates for roster changes, equipment, and ratings.

xbox.FreneticEnigma wrote:Two quick thoughts:
1. I don't think we'll see another "players rating update" until mid to late March. And I very much agree with the post that suggests too many of those requesting increases for skaters are thinking offense only.

2. Next update: first of all, relax. I get so tired of all of you whining one week after an update for the next one. Every second week is solid - as for online play, live with it. It's not horrible.

And the next update should definitely wait until after Feb. 12 when the roster freeze goes into effect for the Olympics - there could very easily be trades in the next few days, and wouldn't you all prefer to have EA wait and then do an update which includes those trades?

I think EA has made a tremendous effort this year with updates for roster changes, equipment, and ratings.

Ya it does kinda make sense to wait about three or four more days till the roster freeze. But the thing is, they should be putting out updates on a daily basis. NBA Live 10 has Dynamic DNA and puts out updates every single day to yield the most accuarte rosters and ratings as in real life. I don't think it would be that hard to do it daily.

ps3.Pavel_Bure wrote:Backstrom is still under rated.. should have 99 passing because no one can saucer pass as good as him. Knubel and semin also need there ratings increased.. Semins shot power... and puck controll.. and passing knubels overall hes better then a 81..

I agree Backstrom's rating could be a little higher, but I think Semin and Knuble's ratings are where they should be.

cem_ea_id.blues4life74 wrote:But the thing is, they should be putting out updates on a daily basis. NBA Live 10 has Dynamic DNA and puts out updates every single day to yield the most accuarte rosters and ratings as in real life. I don't think it would be that hard to do it daily.

I don't think EA Canada has as much staff or time to be able to pull that off and create updates/patches and create next year's game.

xbox.Kevman7987 wrote:

cem_ea_id.blues4life74 wrote:But the thing is, they should be putting out updates on a daily basis. NBA Live 10 has Dynamic DNA and puts out updates every single day to yield the most accuarte rosters and ratings as in real life. I don't think it would be that hard to do it daily.

I don't think EA Canada has as much staff or time to be able to pull that off and create updates/patches and create next year's game.

I'm fairly certain that this is correct. I live in Vancouver, and know of one or two individuals who work at EA here. They've just gone through some downsizing, and their staff also focuses on the Need for Speed franchise, along with NHL. I doubt their numbers would allow for employees to be dedicated to daily updates - even weekly might be a stretch.
Although I'm not an NBA fan, my understanding is that it might also be easier to monitor/modify those rosters, since there are fewer players on a roster, and there's not the constant shuffling between the pro and minor leagues. Also, I think injuries could be less frequent, and do not have as great an impact (for example, I think Kobe has been playing through his injury).
As for ratings, I wouldn't want them changed too frequently. Once or twice a season is fine by me.

xbox.PittPens1787 wrote:

xbox.bMurr wrote:Alright jesus...I don't usually read the roster update blogs because it really is pathetic to listen to some of you people. There is such anger and hostility, it's really kind of comical. If someone is off by one or two points in their ratings is that THAT big of a deal? Is EA really the worst corporate entity in the world? Every other sentence typed by someone is "F&@#$*ING EA YOU S**". C'mon now everyone...

It seems also that people are so hung up on offensive stats and that is the basis for every players ratings. For instance, someone mentioned Kovalchuk should have his rankings along the same line as Ovie, Sid and Malkin...really? Last I checked he has yet to have a single season where he was a PLUS anything. He doesn't play defense, is known to dangle a bit...is he dynamic? Absolutely. Is he talented? Of course...but hockey is a two way game, it isn't soccer where the forwards don't have to play defense.

Also read on some post that Sid Crosby is no where near the player that Malkin or Ovechkin is...do you watch hockey? Crosby, since he came into this league (at 18 mind you), has had the weight of the NHL revival placed on his back. He takes far more abuse because of his name, who he is, than anyone else in this league. He is only 22, maturing before our eyes and he might very well score 60 goals for the first time ever. He is putting Malkin to shame in the PPG department, and is currently a PLUS while Malkin is a negative. Crosby handles far more responsiblity than Malkin on the ice, as centers usually do, and I think it's pretty obvious the the more talented linemates are Malkin's (Guerin is 928734873 years old. He was great earlier this decade - shell of his former self)...it's really absurd to hear some of you people talk. Ovechkin, though, the guy is a machine, might be the best player in the game right now. Key words: 'right now'. I remember in the playoffs when Sidney Crosby put the team on his back and carried the Penguins to the Stanley Cup, including carrying his team over Washington. Also, with a center's added defensive responsibilities, taking draws...I'm just not not ready to give Ovie the nod as THE best in the game yet, but he's sure getting close.

as far as the second and third paragraphs, i think the EA Forums may have just witnessed the Perfect Post...

except being a Pens fan and watching every game I think its safe to say that Guerin and Kunitz are better wingers than whoever the hell ends up on Geno's line. Guerin can still play. Kunitz has been hurt so we havent seen him much with Sid this year but I agree with the rest of everything.

Definitely appreciate the positive feedback on the post. I normally refrain from writing in any of these forums, because I don't want to sound like the spoiled, unhappy, can't please customer...I like to think that even for gaming developers, putting out a game of this magnitude can be incredibly tough. Not to mention the fact they are covering not just the NHL, but also the AHL, Europe, National Teams, All-Stars.

I have to admit though, I can't follow Pittsburgh as much as I would like. I'm from Boston and a huge Bruins fan, and I remember watching Guerin's game decline toward the end of his career here, I am apparently assuming incorrectly his game continued to decline. Apologies. Though I was curious to see who Malkin had skating on his line and according to one site (I forget which) he had Jordan Stall centering him and Pascal Dupius. Even if Guerin's game is still remeniscient of his game in Boston I would still be hard pressed to see him and Fedetenko (Crosby's supposed linemates on the same site) being an upgrade from a young talent like Stall and a solid role player like Dupuis. Kunitz would certainly upgrade that line though. Either way I am glad people enjoy the fact I bring up the fact that people need to play defense in the NHL and that would obvoiusly effect ratings.

b0nesaw316 you give the worst ratings ever.

Just because a goalie is a backup doesnt mean they go from an 85 to an 80 or an 81 to a 77. You really have no idea what your doing. And EA wont even read your dumb paragraph.