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myfastx
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Something has to be done about ratings for teams with 3-4 vrs 4-3. On the Broncos Jarvis Moss sucks as a Linebacker(rightfully so), yet if you change his position to DE all of a sudden he is rated over 80!!! He should be worse at DE because he is not a 3-4 style DE. It is the same way with many players on 3-4 teams. How come in NFL Head Coach last year the ratings changed with the style your team played, yet in Madden this cannot be accounted for? It is obvious you have the technology to do this, is it too much code to add to Madden or what? Don't get me wrong, I love Madden but it seems like all the changes keep being made to just the game play but not many upgrades have been done to improve the team management aspect. Why?
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![[Post New]](http://cdn.forum.ea.com/eaforum/templates/default/skins/en_US/madden12/images/icon_minipost_new.gif?v2.26) 09/22/2009 14:06:01
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abcBoomer
Joined: 06/28/2009 09:48:03
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I forgot to mention something, franchise online for 2 doesn't work,
because you can't take control of non-owned teams, so you must play
against the cpu. That makes no sense to me.
I was waiting so many years for online franchise , it's a shame!
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![[Post New]](http://cdn.forum.ea.com/eaforum/templates/default/skins/en_US/madden12/images/icon_minipost_new.gif?v2.26) 09/23/2009 14:38:31
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darkknightofnas...
Joined: 12/30/2008 11:15:03
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Good
-I like the presentation of the game and the stadiums are alive and beautiful.
-The slower game speed makes the overall feel of the game better.
-I like the differences in speed of the players on the field and the differences between superstars and the average players
-Now able to actually play man coverage without getting burned every play. It actually works.
Bad
-Superstar mode is watered down, boring, and bland. There are no Pro Days, Combine, OTAs, Training Camp, Scrimmages, and there's no feel that you're working hard to become an NFL star. There's also no competition for the starting spots. They're just given to you mostly. There's no real way to train your star's stats through practices, etc. There are no drills to work on your skills.
-O-Line/D-Line Play/AI still needs more work. O-line play is especially bad as they often block irrelevant defenders on screens and runs and get you tackled. An O-lineman leaving the front of the runner to block someone behind him is stupid and unrealistic. There's no concept of man and zone blocking schemes. Also, average or below average O-linemen should not be able to hold up higher rated defensive ends and tackles for as long as they do. I like the pocket formation in the game but in the real NFL, in 5 seconds or less the pocket would collapse and the QB would get killed. On the D-line, there's no concept of bull rushing by powerful linemen. In the secondary, sometimes defenders don't even react to the ball even though they are near it and near the receiver catching it. Receivers should be able to knock the ball out of defenders' hands when going for interceptions instead of just looking at the DB and not reacting. Most linebackers should NOT be able to cover receivers in man coverage down the field. With man coverage, receivers get locked down for TOO long. Sometimes they can hardly get off the line. Linebackers are still leaping high into the air to snag picks and knock down passes.
-Online lobbies freeze too much. (PSN)
Overall, Madden 10 is fun to play but it is still too far from the real NFL to call a simulation. I always get the feeling that not enough was done to make it close to the NFL. I give it a 6.5 out of 10.
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RyGagz225
Joined: 09/23/2009 19:28:04
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I have always been a fan of Madden for a long time now...however Madden 10 blows...online play is such * it constantly screws me over all the time with ridiculous plays and fumbles and what have you...such an annoying game
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KRE8isKevin
Joined: 08/25/2009 14:23:40
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Best Madden ever, clearly!
The Presentation is lovely.
The gameplay is smooth as ever.
The Stick-control is almost like it was on PS2 but not quite yet.
With that said, each year there continue to be some disturbing glitches.
The game manual still won't explain how to activate your Offensive Player's JUMP Rating, on defense you merely Strafe and hit Jump.
The OL continues to miss silly blocks, they fire out and take on the wrong assignments, they are still confused by nano blitzes that would be shut-down in reality.
Why can't we hot-route an individual OL? Like I could hot-route my Center to block straight, left, right, or cut?
In the run-game same thing.
The Coverage is still too tight on deep passes overall. Mediocre CB's are still owning elite WR's downfield unless they have great SPD, that's not realistic, even a 4.6 WR can beat a 4.3 guy deep, especially if he is quick in his routes.
The Special Teams offensive blocking for FG's is still too impossible to penetrate, it should be the longer the kick the more the defense has a chance to block it from the outside or block it by jumping like in reality.
Bring back the pressure close-up with the heartbeat on all clutch kicks.
Why is there so much seperation when a RB runs his route on man coverage?
Why have RTE ratings if they don't apply to RB's?
The game continues to be made as if all fast RB's can run routes and will leave LB's in the open-field laterally, and that's so bogus.
When do you see RB's sprint to the flat in reality? They drift to the flat.
On Madden they sprint to the flat and if it's a fast RB he can leave the LB's.
Even on downfield routes, when do you see a RB sprint downfield and leave the LB's and DB's?
Slow the RB's route running down, not all RB's are effective out the backfield, make the 3rd down specialist or balanced RB's effective in this area, but the mediocre to horrible RB's slow to run out, run wrong routes, etc.
Like Brandon Jacobs rarely catches the ball out of the backfield for the Giants, so why have him effective on the game?
Same with RB Willie Parker, he has never caught over 20 passes in a season out of the backfield, yet on Madden he's most users primary target.
I can understand a HB screen.
The Wildcat run-blocking is too effective, with a fast RB and a good OL, you can cheese all day.
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TreFacTor
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GRUNT3
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The game is a piece of garbage,why ask for impressions?when you know you won't do what is needed,and that is scrap all that is currently madden,and start fresh.But you wont,you will just add a new coat of paint and update the rosters.
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WiebMan
Joined: 09/22/2009 18:28:09
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Can you do a better job next year please?
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Firedan
Joined: 10/02/2009 19:44:11
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cem_ea_id.X_Joey_X wrote:Whats up fellas !
This is my first post, I might get trashed for this but oh well !
I have been playing Madden since 1992 when I had it on Sega Gen I was always a fan of Madden, I bought every release either on release day or the next day, I even have the Nintendo 64 madden where NFL licence is not present. in some cases, I would buy the game for PS2 and XBOX, or N64 and PS1 thats in addition to my PSP
in addition to Madden, I have bought other football games, such as NFL GAME DAY, 2K football, and blitz.
I am simply a big fan of football and the NFL.
This year is no different, I am currenlty deployed to Iraq, I pre ordered Madden 2010 for x360 on Amazon and got it a few days after release.
After playing about 50 matches on Madden 2010 and playing about 20 matches online, I have come to the following.
MADDEN 2010 should of been 100 times better than what it is !
there is good things in this game ! but the bad is more than the good here is why I say this !
PRO TAK, new animations, franchise, and online are good things !
but lets get serious EA has had exclusive rights to the NFL for the past 5 years, what good has that done for me as life time madden player ?
The commentary is still garbage in this game, some of the animations are total BS, especcially the one where a player trips and falls forwad and gains 5 years in the process !
or whats up with RB's that have ratings of less than 80 and they can break 6-8 man tackels ! its just not real !
why dont WR's tipy toe, while running on the sidelines when they are getting ready to step out ?
i can get into more animations but i wont !
why are we seeing the same Madden engine over and over? trying to save cost and maximize profit i would think.
here is where it gets annoying EA secured ESPN rights a few years back ! why the heck don't we see any signs of ESPN in Madden ? when 2k had that licence they used it to the fullest anyone played 2K5, that game really had an ESPN/NFL feel I loved it !
I still think 2K5 had better presentation, pre game, half time, post game and they even had a mini sports center with Chris Berman the commentary was 100 times better than what we have now !
EA SPORTS should be ashamed ! people are still talking about a game made 5 years ago on last gen console !
I notice people get sensitve when someone mentions 2K5, its not a perfect game by a long shot !
but Visual Concepts made a respectible football game which had a fanbase !
it was competion to madden which is a good thing, if video games makers compete the video game player wins and thats a fact.
remeber when we had, gameday, madden, 2k, blitz even tecmo made a game for PS1
we always compared looked at the different options that each game had !
thats no more !
and what ticks me off, is all the DLC content that WE HAVE TO PAY FOR !
I guess you can do that when your the only game in town ! in addition to $60 bux we pay, your gonna charge us for bells and whistels ! which will be useless when Madden 2011 comes out !
am sorry to say this but I think EA SPORTS is only thinking about dollars and how much more profits they can make and not focusing on making a solid football games.
When you have secured EXCLUSIVE NFL rights, I guess you can relax and take it easy ! cause your the only game in town, if anyone wants to play football they are gonna buy your game no matter what it is.
am sick of excuses !
the only game in town, does not make it the best game in town !
after being a madden player for 19 years am tossin the towel !
and hanging my jersey !
Lifetime Madden Player, Iraq OUT !
I hope people who reply to this are madden players who have played the game for more than 10 years and are over 21 years of age !
peace
I, like you, have played Madden for years and had many games while in the military. Keep up the good work.
I, like you, have played Madden since its inception.
I, like you, am tired of the crap that EA has put out since "The next Gen".
I, like you, am not paying for another EA Madden sports game when they are going after profits rather than perfection.
I told myself not to buy it this year. Burned and spurned, wont happen again next year.
I hope others follow suit.
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phoenix22
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one word=disgusting."if you see it on sunday, its in the game" ya know what i DON'T see on sunday? footballs going THROUGH a players arm or a defensive end coming around the edge about to nail the quarterback for a huge sack only to get sucked into the offensive lineman right next to him and then all of a sudden being blocked as if the d-lineman is trying to sack his teammate. or how about an NFL offensive tackle stand there and watch the defensive end run right by him or the o-lineman do a 360 while everyone else goes right by him. or heres a better one, seeing a linebacker literally go THROUGH an offensive lineman and tackle the quarterback before he hands the ball off.
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TreFacTor
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phoenix22
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im sure they stopped reading this thread after page 20...
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Firedan
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This should be stickied to Madden Development Department "To Do" Buletin board.
The Board of Directors should have the 2k5 Game developers on speed dial.
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II ICE 21 II
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Things I feel need to be improved:
DEFENSE
OVERALL- Controls feel CLUNKY. This Madden seems to lack that precision feel and movement of past Maddens. This affects all aspects of defense negatively and makes for a less rewarding ball-hawking experience
1.) Too often the defender tackles the receiver by what looks like a summersault to take out their back legs and then the receiver falls 5 yards forward like he is on ice and flops to the ground like a crash test dummy. It happens frequently on short yardage crossing routes.
2.) Compared to last year, I have a hard time controlling the defender to make an interception. Previous years I could jump routes with a line backer or safety. This year it feels CLUNKY and usually when I press Y to catch the ball my defender does some random animation in the wrong direction causing him to completely miss the pick and allow the receiver to catch and run for a big gain. I noticed this with the ball swat too some times.
3.) Maybe I am not doing it right, but performing swim and rush moves with the analog stick does not work at all. It also feels CLUNKY when I am rushing the passer. It just doesn't seem to have that precision feel to get through the gap to make a sack.
4.) THE QUARTERBACK GETS AWAY WITH TOO MANY INCOMPLETIONS!!!! So often I get so excited to get a sack only to have the CPU akwardly dump the ball 5 yards for an incomplete pass, most of the time they should be fumbles or intentional grounding. This event has caused interceptions to be almost non-existent and not fun.
5.) Not a lot of time to make defensive adjustments before the snap of the ball. I feel that in previous Maddens if I was making defensive adjustments fast enough in sequence, the CPU didn't snap the ball. Now I get two seconds and now I never use most of the pre-snap adjustments simply because I don't get enough time to set them.
6.) Where is the pass rush?? Franchise 3-4 defense with 99 OVR Kampman at LE. He is the one that gets the sack 95% of the time. I have 4LB's between 86-96 OVR and DL's 90 and 93 and they just don't get to the quarterback.
7.) The dive button is useless. Maybe it could be used as a signature tackle or "quick" hit stick tackle. Either way the dive should just be eliminated and a new element of gameplay could be introduced.
8.) The hit stick needs more animations. I'd like to see a more "swallowing" tackle with the defender hitting hard and falling on top of the player more.
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GeronimoReturns...
Joined: 10/07/2009 12:06:44
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i will keep this short:
EA IS JUNK.
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