nfsw-live.SKYKS wrote:
and it silly i played start from most wanted then carbon and there are same bugs now in NFSW.. lol

how many years counting? from Most Wanted release.. lol

There will always be bugs. When they fix them, new ones will appear.

nfs_web.Yaguro wrote:

nfsw-live.SKYKS wrote:
why the hell you guys think that EA can fraud as any time any place?

It's not fraud you mug, You have obviously never been told what fraud is, here let's have wikipedia explain what fraud is.

In the broadest sense, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual.

Nobody has been damaged in this process, and since if you paid for the starter pack, you got a whole load of bonus's that nobody else did + A car that nobody else can buy now, because it's unique to the starter pack.

You also got 20$ Worth of Boost point, which is 8000Boost.

It's amazing that its taken nearly 50 Pages to relise, how stupid people are.

In fact this community could proberly be compared to the IQ of Stormfront

You really should not speak about IQ given your post and the typing in it.

I know this will be lost in this massive thread, but all other threads associated around this topic are being locked ....... sheesh!

I don't really have much interest in having 3 rentals cars, however if I DID, how would I be able to use them? I have 5 slots (2 extra, paid for with boost) ......... where would a rental go?

I am hardly going to sell a car for 25% of it's purchase price, just to free up a slot!

It's more slots we need, and plenty of them ........

CSO_SUB.jsskppnn wrote:

We did not really lose anything, nothing was taken from us, we still have the extra car and all the powerups and vouchers we have not used yet. But, because we feel we were tricked into buying the VIP pass,
Jussi

oke u go buy something in the store for 20 euro's ,tomorrow there giving it away for free, and they knew that they where gonna do that .
wasnt that gonna * u off ? so yes imo i lost 20 euro's , wich i can use for other stuff....

and yes i feel tricked into buying the starter pack .. u knew nfsw was going ftp and u didnt gave people any notice .
why ? well u guys wanted to fill your pocket as long as possible .....

this is just a rippof in my eyes

and comparing a track with a game is just apless and oranges

thesims.croaker4 wrote:

nfs_web.Yaguro wrote:

nfsw-live.SKYKS wrote:
why the hell you guys think that EA can fraud as any time any place?

It's not fraud you mug, You have obviously never been told what fraud is, here let's have wikipedia explain what fraud is.

In the broadest sense, a fraud is an intentional deception made for personal gain or to damage another individual.

Nobody has been damaged in this process, and since if you paid for the starter pack, you got a whole load of bonus's that nobody else did + A car that nobody else can buy now, because it's unique to the starter pack.

You also got 20$ Worth of Boost point, which is 8000Boost.

It's amazing that its taken nearly 50 Pages to relise, how stupid people are.

In fact this community could proberly be compared to the IQ of Stormfront

You really should not speak about IQ given your post and the typing in it.

Touché!

Really, guys stop with the fighting.

This is a contact breaking wich is ilegal, I do agree with ppl here saying we need more car slots and I think we should get videos that showing what we will see in the gameplay with a date of release and exclusive vaynels and a SP buyer sign next to our names and maybe just maybe a free any tier car so no1 will be forced to buy he cant use.
Basicly thats my opinion, maybe ill combine it with other opinions that i will see but for now thats it, thanks for reading this if you did.

OMG, this thread exploded...

1)
I preordered the game, therefore I got that VIP-Vinyl. Reading the news, it says that now every SP-Buyer gets that status as well. Which is ok, if you would just put another little Vinyl into the game reading something like blacklist member/undergroud racer/whatsoever, just to let others know that I've been there from day 1 (like many others as well). Couldn't be that hard to do.

2)
Actually I would withdraw that additional carslot, just open those up for everyone, honestly, that won't be a visible thing, just save those who paid some boost.

3)
As I think, that one should win by skills rather than by car (or items, which is a different topic, and a lost fight as welll), I don't want any advantage when it comes to racing/driving, BUT...

4)
A car that has same stats as Audi S5 or the bug called elise but is just a different car would be nice. Make it an Integra Type R from NFSU(nderground..) or the Civic or skyline gtr34 of the same game, just some "NFS-Classics", put em in T2 with stats compared to those of the topcars there. Put it in for 300K, just two styles (remember the body-kits?), only available for SP-Players, untuneable in performance (as it got the stats of those maxxed out S5/elise), would be a job well done.

5)
Maybe something freaky like special numberplates? I don't know about numberplates in the US, but maybe there are certain styles of numberplates for police I don't know, but could be a funny thing to put in. Even just the numberplates of the old games to choose... Oh well...sure not some sort of compensation on its own...

6)
Maybe an additional level of paint? I don't know if someone remembers juiced (first part..). There you could choose three levels of paint (gloss + metallic + pearl) , which reflected differently and gave some nice effect.


Personally I would take e.g. the Integra Type R maxxed out as a compensation, if this car (Integra Type R stock...) would not be available to F2P. "Just" polish the car which already exists as a model, freshen up the stats, and hand me the key in November, I am not in a hurry...

Besides I know there could be legal issues accompaning this suggestion, if that occurs, create fantasy-coupe, or maybe a hotrod, though I am a fan of tuners...

Pls make me a happy customer, I am willing to throw my money at you, if I feel I get something for it, which is actually what I am missing since cap-removal.

Regards,
OM

How about give us the WARRIOR from Road & Track The Need For Speed (first title ever)...... p

I've read all 50 pages and my conclusion is that it's no easy solve and some will end up disappointed with anything short of refund or exclusivity. My solution is boost with promises.

First of all Drew and company need to reevaluate the the cost of boost or it's buying power.
Next you need to give the paying players something worth purchasing with the boost...cars, performance parts, skill respec, garage slots, amps, etc...we need much more than just power ups. Every car should have a boost price. I'm sure this was all part of the plan anyway. So with that in mind, most of us can get what were after.

Now drew you've said till you're blue in the face how great a value you gave us. Let me address this.

Lvls 11-40, that was the point drew, this alone was the reason for most of us giving up the $20

Mazdaspeed 3, well I think most of us played for free a bit and then decided to buy the SP. What this means is we had no use for that car since we bought a better one right out of the gate. By the way, we can't even sell that car for what would amount to less that 30 minutes of earnings. I think that was a bit cheesy. At least give us 5k for it.

Powerup bundle, you mean the same bundle that all new drivers get?

Network preference, ok well interesting concept but useless up till now, maybe it'll come into play with the new f2p model.

8k boost, here's the key to me. I'm sure you've gathered i think the boost is currently over valued by your team. Many of us bought the 2 garage slots and then carelessly spent the rest on the only other things you offered(amps, or power ups). I say carelessly because im sure in the near future you'll be offering goodies worth having boost for. But you didn't give that to us up to now. So you think boost is valuable, we see it as next to worthless at this point.

Drew the answer is boost with promises that the boost will actually be valuable in some meaningful way. Some of us want a new car, fine boost. Others, skill respec, performance parts, garage slots, again boost.

The only question left is how much boost?, and how soon can we use it on something we all consider worth using it for.

As far as exclusivity, I'm afraid we give that up in the short term, I don't want to tie the hands of the development team, I want them to have total creative freedom to make the changes they see fit to improve the game for all. As a community we can't force them into an environment of fear, and then expect something special to come out of that.

We need to accept a level of value for our $20 and move on. I know it stings a bit, but if we sacrifice a little in the short term, maybe we get all the potential we see in the game for the long term. I'm convinced that if we start seeing some of the promise of this game soon, then many of us will grumble much less as a result.

Just my 2 cents

nfsw-ob.MADBIKER1960 wrote:@ Drew.

This is a proposal for your next meeting of the minds. It is quite obvious that this patch has created a storm of controversy that just will not go away.

So here it is:

Put the leveling cap back on at level 50. You all have been talking about the new improvements that are coming to the game, i.e. Group Police Pursuit etc.

Save all that for the people who level above 50, or as we like to call ourselves The Starter Pack Buyers.

It is not hard to do, we get the full benefits of the game, and all the freebies get their gear so to speak. They get all their cars, levels, and all the advantages that the Starter Pack Buyers were supposed to get.

Then offer the full game to the freebies at a fair price of say $39.99 USD giving them full access to the whole game.

That way everyone is happy, SP buyers get their exclusivity back, freebies get their free game, and in the end EA gets a whole lot richer.

For you see you will have the interaction of group speak available for the freebies to read, and when they do read about the fun the SP guys are having, they will have no choice but to buy the game.

Food for thought, but don't wait too long.

and what about the starter pack owners that aint at level 50 lol is our $20 mean less so we dont get the extra content lol i really think some people need to think before they comment

cem_ea_id.Fred931 wrote:

battlefield.Lucky_Ned_Pepper wrote:
Well make sure you make a strong cup for yourself , kissing their * the way you and others like you do cant possibly leave that great an after taste in that pie hole you call a mouth.

I don't understand how people can be so directly hateful to others. Can I meet your parents?

A debate is not the same as an argument, and neither are the same as a fight. Try debating, maybe you'll make your first friend.

There is no debate here , it is very simple i and others paid for a game that was fraudulently marketed and got ripped off , you and others did not and pissed ,moaned and whined that you should get it for free , because you should never have to pay for anything.

As far as hateful , i think not , you are in a thread you and the rest of the freeloaders dont belong in , making comments that are not welcome or needed , so if you cant take it , dont dish it out. As far as my parents , you are very lucky and i mean very lucky that you are not within breathing distance of me or you would be face flat , you never invoke someones parents , but of course people like you cant understand that either.
You will never understand about the concept of paying your own way , you think everyone should just give it to you , so just take a hike and thank you lucky stars.

hello, I just want to say, even if I bought the starter pack, I still am excited with this news. I don't need to buy my little brother another one for his account, thanks.

For all of those who bought it, just think of it as you were buying boost. Which you are really, plus we get extra 3 cars for rental, and that I think is good enough.

I just hope ea releases the new features soon!

what EA needs to do is make everything in game buyable with boost, cars/upgrades/everything, this way people will spend cash not to grind for days to get what they want and EA makes cash and on the other hand the people that cant afford to buy boost can still grind to get the same cars/upgrades. I know i would defo buy boost to save grinding for cars and upgrades. I vote for 1 free token for any car in the game free to use when we like and for at least 1 free car slot to put this free car in i dont want boost or rep or 20% of this and that free car to keep and some car slots thank you very much

nfsw-live.RETRORACER wrote:what EA needs to do is make everything in game buyable with boost, cars/upgrades/everything,

you will be surprised how fast game will die after this

lol.. and there no more trust to EA

you buy feature and using boosts and spend money and tomorrow it will be FREE FOR ALL

NO THANK YOU

First of all, thanks to devs for making high-level races more popular, even in that way. Now there's a reason to return to NFSWORLD.
Secondly, I hope very much that game will not require money for the new content (cars, cities, modes, new levels). BTW Starter Pack still can be bought, so starter pack users should have some advantages. Free car, VIP status and network priority is not enough. I guess there should be permanent +25% to Rep and Cash amplifier. Car slots are not nessesairy, cause in future everybody should have more car slots. Free T3 car - we already have one. Well, not T3, but free and custom designed.
Finally, thanks to Drew and all other devs, who are looking through forums, reading all these posts and making what we want. We really appreciate that, but sometimes people just don't understand this.

PS: We've seen that there are other versions of the game, that are not available for download by ordinary users (I speak about betas), and I guess that devs sometimes need to test some features more globally. On the other side, we've got a bunch of paid-gamers, who want exclusives. So, let users try new content a little time before in goes officialy live.

Thanks, KM.