Great job poetic. It's great that the dev's are listening to the fans - not a very common thing ; ).

Whether you got people agreeing or disagreeing with, glad your taking the time to stay involved with the FN series. Thanks. Now, tell EA to put Rocky Marciano in as DLC in FNR4.

Fight Night Round 5 must have:

1- Tito Trinidad
2- Bernard Hopkins
3- Floyd Mayweather
4- Evander Holyfield

Gameplay must have:

1- the famous FNR3 best camera angle 'Swing' camera
2- multiple weight divisions boxers
3- proper and realistic ONLINE weight divisions (ligthweight, welters, middle), but NOT as is right now.

Why was my post deleted?

I'm loooving the new wishlist look me ages to read it

Is that the final and only list to be submitted?

I've got some gameplay ideas which i think haven't been covered in it.

xbox.EnglishOxide wrote:Is that the final and only list to be submitted?

I've got some gameplay ideas which i think haven't been covered in it.

read throught the list and let me know and I'll see what I can do?

I just had a rough read through, and didn't see my suggestion to remove special punches and haymakers.?! I hope there's an option to turn them hideous special and haymaker punches off, if included.

Get rid the the "magnet" effect that pulls the boxers together, get rid of the silly arcadey body punch knockdowns, get rid of jabs that stun guys like they been hit with hooks, add better and faster footwork, get rid of freeze counters, add REAL ringwalks and intros (not that 10 second crap where we don't even see boxers enter the ring), give each fighter their own unique style and personality, add a much LIVELIER crowd like real boxing has, and just leave out the ARCADE CRAP! Boxing games just don't need it!

Can't read the wishlist as I don't have MSWord :'(

But my wishlist is:

1: Each Fighter should have 2 different attires or looks, e.g. Pacquiao with red shorts or white shorts, or Forman with young & old versions...

2: There should be an option to throw in the towel, which counts as a TKO for the opponent, it's just a better way of ending a fight you think you can't win, rather than having to get DQd or quitting the game & have your dnf go up...

3. Take Reignmaka's slider settings (360) & have the game be more like that, no chances for spamming, spin block is useless, you really have to fight smart, it's the only way I play the CPU now, I'd suggest to make it the settings for online play now, but Spammers would * & moan about it...

4. Have ranked/unranked be like FNR3, you pick the weightclass you wanna play in, & have only the boxers from that weightclass be selectable, that & have each fighter have a version in the weightclasses they were in, many times I fought as Pacquiao & my opponents picked Hearns or Hagler, it's boring...

5. Definitly more hairstyles, & a way to edit the shape of the top of the head (Round head, Square head...)

6. Reyes Gloves

7. Pacquiao as the cover man, I don't see who else could be on the cover...

8. Take out the training games, just scrap any kind of training games, I found it really tedious... Just have it so when you're playing career, you just select what you wanna train - Speed, Power or Stamina, or something similar to that... *Cough* UFC *Cough* is a perfect example of that, this way, I think you'd have much more space on the disc for more boxers, arenas, CAB stuff or whatever else could improve the in game mechanics...

9. Michael Buffer, nuff said there, although it wud b a $$$ problem

10. More realistic camera angles during intros & between rounds, as well as a number of different anims you can choose for your boxer when he comes out e.g. Smiling & waving to the crowd, walking or light jogging to the ring etc...

11. Have Williams as a last name, you have Williamson but not Williams?..

12. OWC should have 3 belts in each weight division, & it should be every weight division, or at least 6, considering only 1 CAB is usable in OWC, other than having a much bigger leaderboard I don't see how that could be a problem, just have an achievement for winning 1 belt only, not all the belts...

13. Better KD anims, such as a flash KO, the boxer shouldn't lie motionless on the floor, he should look like he got hit with a good shot, but not a shot that ended the fight, such as Hatton getting knocked down the 1st time against Pacquiao...

14. Advertisements & Logos on boxer's shorts, even if the companies are fake, that or customizable logos you can put on any of your attire, just keep it limited such as having a certain size & only 3 - 4 colours max...

15. Different styles of robes, it's a shame FNR4 doesn't have LaMotta's leopard design robe, or Pacquiao's Filipino traingular robe, would just add to the customization...

16. Have different commentary packs like Fifa, although that would cost $...

17. A more eclectic soundtrack, I found this year's to be the worst, with that annoying lil kid "talk about being a beatle" rubbish & lady sovereign... & try get the songs boxers come out to, or a way to upload songs with your cab, but again, $...

A few of my suggestions would have to do with budget, but the gameplay ones don't... but if I had to say, the most important for me is the training games, take those out, & you have more disc space to use for things that are more important..

You can view the wishlist here on my blog. http://www.operationsports.com/SHAKYR/blog/

I've just had two fights at heavyweight against two top 10 people on the Xbox. I was Toney, they were Lewis and Ali. I got knocked out in the 3rd round of each of them, suffering alot of knockdowns.

The majority of the people at the top of the leaderboards are excellent computer game players, they button mash, stick mash and exploit the game to win.

The second game i had, i got knocked out in the 3rd round by Ali. I couldn't get up from the fourth knockdown. I had a 72 landed percentage to his 61. He threw 366 punches (round 3 wasn't even over!) to my 157. I was restricted to 157, i couldn't throw anymore because my stamina was drained. But it was drained because i was trying to box. I countered him 25 times, to his 10. I was on the ropes, ducking, diving and making him miss and countering, but i got penalised for it because he sapped my stamina. This is atrocious.

In the first round this guy threw 144 punches. No skill, no thought into the combos, just throw to head and body mixing it up now and then and just draining health and stamina. I'm not being big headed, but in my 500 or so fights i must have been out-countered only a few dozen times, if that.

Grrr, you know what... f** it. I'm not gonna explain. Developers should figure this out for themselves, i'm sick of going over it. In the early part of a fight you should not be suffering from stamina problems, resulting in heavier health damage to the head, unless it's from an accumulation of body punches. Even if there is an accumulation of body punches, if you are getting the sh*t countered out of you on the way in, the attacking fighter must be stopped in his tracks. They must be made to rethink their strategy. As it is, computer game players online have figured out how to keep their stamina up while taking down the other guys, which results in his health going too. It's as simple as that. No amount of boxing/countering you attempt to do in this game currently can overturn it. I'm sick of it.


Bottom line: This game needs to be a sim. You need to be rewarded for counter punching. You need to have counters and jabs which make fighters think twice about their strategy. You need to not have heavyweights throwing 144 f*cking punches (366 inside 3 rounds) and getting away with it.

Ah most of the things I asked for were in there, but the things that were not are:

1: There should be an option to throw in the towel, which counts as a TKO for the opponent, it's just a better way of ending a fight you think you can't win, rather than having to get DQd or quitting the game & have your dnf go up...

2. Take Reignmaka's slider settings (360) & have the game be more like that, no chances for spamming, spin block is useless, you really have to fight smart, it's the only way I play the CPU now, I'd suggest to make it the settings for online play now, but Spammers would moan about it...

3. Take out the training games, just scrap any kind of training games, I found it really tedious... Just have it so when you're playing career, you just select what you wanna train - Speed, Power or Stamina, or something similar to that... *Cough* UFC *Cough* is a perfect example of that, this way, I think you'd have much more space on the disc for more boxers, arenas, CAB stuff or whatever else could improve the in game mechanics, training mini games are just a waste of time IMO...

4. Michael Buffer, nuff said there, although it wud b a $$$ problem

5. Have different commentary packs like Fifa, although that would cost $...

That is a pheonominal wishlist document you guys. All you guys ideas that are on the wishlist. Well I have to say that everybody's ideas should be in FNR5 to make it a better game. Dur It Dur!

add more current boxers
fix how knockdowns look (all knockdowns look the same)
add more venues
CUTS/Blood (there should be blood on your opponents chest and face, not just a lil paper cut)
TATTOOOS
besides that fn4 was great lets hope 5 fixes these issues