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Joined: 01/23/2013 01:02:50
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oh awsome solution... here's me holding my breath

Time is not important Mr. President, only life is important.




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Lucidious7 wrote:I'm thankfull that SimCity found somebody to fund it (EA). After 10 years I'm happy to be playing any kind of SimCity. I'm sure Mr. Ocean had to do some bending for EA, but atleast we have a game to play now. So....thanks EA!!!!!!!


yeah as long as you have an internet connection...

SimCity 2013: Too much Sim and too little City...




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(Note the TL;DR version of my following reply can be summarized as "Back in my day I played SimCity in the snow and freezing rain and typed uphill both ways and I liked it" )

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[quote=Tjejen]I have the perfect solution for all the people complaining about the online only blah blah blah...

Please EA could you patch all your previous renditions of SC to run the power and the water with the roads. Seems like that's the only thing the real/hardcore/<insert other title here> fans want out of the new version.

Once you do that, they'll all go off to play what they believe is the vastly superior version and we won't have to listen to them bleating anymore.

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Perhaps you're exaggerating for rhetorical effect, but of the various things I'd "want out of a new version", updated graphics seems like the only one to have been implemented. Other things I would have liked would have been:

1st person ground-level perspective
unkludgy game-saving
customizable zoos/fairs/mega-parks
nameable streets
games within the game, like inside the casino or stadiums, also perhaps integration with other sims, such as hotel/airport/train/bus/farm/etc.

Obviously I didn't expect all or even most of these to actually occur, but I was disappointed to see none of them, especially improved game-saving and to a lesser degree ground-level perspective. Anyhow, in spite of all of this, I'm still fairly excited about the game, in spite of the large number of critiques so far:

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/sim-city-5/1224978p1.html
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/simcity-impressions-we-waited-ten-years-for-this/
http://penny-arcade.com/report/editorial-article/why-you-shouldnt-trust-our-simcity-review
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-simcity/2300-7103/
http://blog.games.com/2013/02/04/leaked-manual-shows-simcity-5-has-in-game-store/
http://gamerhorizon.com/is-the-new-simcity-game-a-downgrade-from-simcity-4/#comment-area

All that said, the more I think about this the more I suspect this whole argument is, when you get far enough down to it, a generational thing. The generation of geeks/dorks/nerds that grew up with SimCity in the 90's has a fair amount of nostalgia for many of the classic computer games of that decade - they were less graphically shiny, but they were engrossing in other, arguably more lasting, ways. Back then, Sim City was a fairly nerdy game for people that wanted to escape from reality, and particularly from the reality of other people, and now we have a new Sim City that's geared towards an entirely different generation that is practically never without internet/smartphone access to whatever social media their friends currently use. To this generation, there's nothing particularly strange about turning Sim City into a social game since they're part of the most group-thinkish society since, well, since ever, and there's really no way for me, as a gen-X'er, to explain the charm of the older, more individualistic, games (and entertainment in general) of the previous century.

In a nutshell, I would have to admit my annoyance is really that of someone that the mainstream gaming industry has more abandoned because I'm no longer in my teens/early 20's, and that this update of such a beloved classic feels like a sort of glossy perversion of the very spirit of the older versions, as if someone auto-tuned a Mozart Opera, or the Beatles, or what have you.

On the other hand, if I'm going to act as spokesman for an entire generation, in all honesty I should also admit that my generation's penchant for pirating software gives EA an excuse (albeit a rather weak one) for all this DRM nonsense in the first place. However, if the worst aspect of the game was the DRM I wouldn't object so much, but the worst aspect of this game is probably something far more obnoxious, and that's being practically forced to co-exist with you lot in order to develop my lots(1).

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(1) Yes, I know, that's a crappy pun and there's a single-player mode, but the game is obviously centered around multi-player and one of the main reasons I liked SimCity was that you people weren't in it.

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Im looking for a thumbs up button but there isnt one but my lovely Lutwidge77, if your username indicates your year of birth then we are the same age

I played the previous games too and I loved them just the way they were - and if I want to play SC4 I will boot it up Right now, along with a whole bunch of people, I can't wait to play this version!! The moaning about every element of the game aside from the lack of power lines and pipes is driving me nuts though and its made worse by the fact that 95% of the whingers are over 30yrs old and should have better things to do with their time.

Mind you this discussion is pointless as it will now be drowned in the "omg its 12.12am and I can't download"








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LOL GAMES BROKE




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I don't have the time to read through all these posts but, I agree with those who have said to include an offline option. I have 2 small children each under 2, so I either don't have the time to play during the day or choose not to because I hate having to pause every ten seconds. So I don't really have the time to make a bunch of online friends to play the Sims with which is why I never log onto Sims 3. and what happens if you do decide to have an open-play option and someone comes in just to take over cities and grief other players? Something needs to be remedied about this ASAP, or this game is going to go down the toilet after a month or two just like Diablo III did, when Blizzrd pulled this stunt. That's the reason Diablo II was so successful it had an online AND offline option. Now nearly a year later I only know of a handful or people who still even play it, and they are all friends of a friend, of a friend. Create an offline option and you'll be able to avoid a huge flop, and bring back in all the die hard fans that are veering away from this one.




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I too have played SC since its inception and I as well will be passing this one up. I have waited for a new version since the last one and was happy to hear about it being developed. But, as the news about the "features" became public, I grew less interested and a little annoyed.

I have no interest in required internet gaming and I do not see the reason in it. This is the main reason I stay away from other companies like Steam - I just do not want to be forced to have any type of network/internet connection to use any software.

Being in my late 40's and playing games since Pong and Zork, this sad trend makes me happy that I still have access to games that were made to be played by 1 person. Adding an option or having a version for network/internet/multi-player is all well and good - but for those (and I am just guessing that it is the majority) that do not use Facebook or get excited when a publisher adds the monotonous line "challenge your friends" or "play against your friends" or whatever the newest social website gaming tags are - we want a game that challenges us.

Give me my Sim City back.




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[quote=rolandnj]

Give me my Sim City back.[/quote]

noone took your Sim City did they? As far as I know there is a thriving SC4 community doing all sorts of fancy stuff and having all sorts of fun with that game.

I dont get why you guys are so annoyed. You still have access to all the old SC versions and if this one annoys you then don't look at it. The SC IP doesn't owe you anything just because you played the previous versions so much. I loved Mariocart back in the day - whats the latest version look like? I have no idea. If they revamped the old version (ie didnt change a thing and just updated the graphics) I would buy it, but I don't go around moaning that they made a mariocart that isn't as awesome as I remember the original.





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[quote=Tjejen][quote=rolandnj]

Give me my Sim City back.[/quote]

noone took your Sim City did they? As far as I know there is a thriving SC4 community doing all sorts of fancy stuff and having all sorts of fun with that game.

I dont get why you guys are so annoyed. You still have access to all the old SC versions and if this one annoys you then don't look at it. The SC IP doesn't owe you anything just because you played the previous versions so much. I loved Mariocart back in the day - whats the latest version look like? I have no idea. If they revamped the old version (ie didnt change a thing and just updated the graphics) I would buy it, but I don't go around moaning that they made a mariocart that isn't as awesome as I remember the original.

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I don't get why YOU guys are so annoyed, or why give a bleep. Shouldn't you be playing simcity online right now? Oh wait the severs are jacked.....

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Joined: 03/05/2013 14:23:25
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Day 1 and its not possible to play the game we have spent money on. Your online model is a joke EA, allow us to play offline or create our own multiplayer games with friends.




Joined: 03/05/2013 12:22:13
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A very simple fix would be to do what certain cloud services do.

If you're offline, you still have access to your city and all it's components. When you go back online, you synch up but not allowing paying customer to play a game due to server reliability is dangerous and of course, frustrating.

I just hope that the servers are back up tonight so that I can go home and enjoy this game




Joined: 03/04/2013 18:23:40
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Really? I've been playing for the last few hours no problems

I logged out myself coz I have stuff to do, but Ill be back on later tonight - and if the servers aren't up...well I'm not about to have an aneurysm over it. Calm down, go do something else for a while.

Might I suggest a nap perhaps - seems everyone is a widdle bit over-tired and a widdle bit cwanky

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Joined: 03/05/2013 17:40:20
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Then there are those of us in the areas where it has already been released who still have it greyed out on Origin. I can't even get to the part where I have to wait for the servers.



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One big fat: Told You So





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Not buying this game till they add offline functionality - which I know they will.
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