The Masters

ps3.cccgolfer08 wrote:if you actually read anything on the forums you would see that ea has already explained that they can't tell between controllers. pretty sure that a company can't ban use of a company's controller to be used read up before you start rambling on about a buncha * that isnt true bud

You are correct, EA can't do anything about what controller is connected. But there are a few things they could do make the controller choice meaningless.

1. All online daily, weekly, etc. tournaments at all levels one try only. As I said once before, it is a tournament not an arcade experience. If you want to practice the course before trying do it offline with the settings the same as the tournament ones. Then come online and give it a shot. For the weeklies if you don't complete a round it is a DQ for that round only. But that will adversely affect your total score.

2. No ball control after it leaves the club face. This is the most unrealistic aspect of the game. And the most abused. You need to hook or fade? Set the shot and take it. Again quit making it an arcade experience. It is a golf game and unless the real players have some sort of hoodoo voodoo they can't control the ball after it leaves the club face.

3. Here is a positive. Leave the putt preview on in all modes including Tour Pro. The exception would be the extreme tournaments since that is part of the challenge on those. The onscreen resolution isn't realistic enough to actually get a good read of the slope and curve. To make Tour Pro the challenge it should be then turn the green grid off but leave the putt preview.

4. Make the tier system such that once a player reaches a certain level they cannot go back. Prevent sandbagging just to stay at the top of a lesser tier leader board. Allow lesser tier players to play any higher tier they want just to get a feel for the higher levels.

5. Implement a 60 second shot clock on all shots off the green. Turn off the clock for putting only. This lessens the chance for players with more than one console to game the system by tuning the shot on another console before shooting the actual in tournament shot. There are no "do overs" in tournament golf.

All these should only apply to the daily, etc. online tournaments. Leave the one-on-one matches, etc. as they are now.

xbox.Lulz4Food wrote:

ps3.cccgolfer08 wrote:if you actually read anything on the forums you would see that ea has already explained that they can't tell between controllers. pretty sure that a company can't ban use of a company's controller to be used read up before you start rambling on about a buncha * that isnt true bud

You are correct, EA can't do anything about what controller is connected. But there are a few things they could do make the controller choice meaningless.

1. All online daily, weekly, etc. tournaments at all levels one try only. As I said once before, it is a tournament not an arcade experience. If you want to practice the course before trying do it offline with the settings the same as the tournament ones. Then come online and give it a shot. For the weeklies if you don't complete a round it is a DQ for that round only. But that will adversely affect your total score.

2. No ball control after it leaves the club face. This is the most unrealistic aspect of the game. And the most abused. You need to hook or fade? Set the shot and take it. Again quit making it an arcade experience. It is a golf game and unless the real players have some sort of hoodoo voodoo they can't control the ball after it leaves the club face.

3. Here is a positive. Leave the putt preview on in all modes including Tour Pro. The exception would be the extreme tournaments since that is part of the challenge on those. The onscreen resolution isn't realistic enough to actually get a good read of the slope and curve. To make Tour Pro the challenge it should be then turn the green grid off but leave the putt preview.

4. Make the tier system such that once a player reaches a certain level they cannot go back. Prevent sandbagging just to stay at the top of a lesser tier leader board. Allow lesser tier players to play any higher tier they want just to get a feel for the higher levels.

5. Implement a 60 second shot clock on all shots off the green. Turn off the clock for putting only. This lessens the chance for players with more than one console to game the system by tuning the shot on another console before shooting the actual in tournament shot. There are no "do overs" in tournament golf.

All these should only apply to the daily, etc. online tournaments. Leave the one-on-one matches, etc. as they are now.

Eloquently said. Well done.

i agree with a lot of those points, they are trying to make the game playable for everyone though...there are people out there that play the game because of an arcade style, there are other people that like a simulation, thats why they gave amateur and tour pro...which brings me to the fact that you cant touch spin when the ball is in the air in tour mode..they have several dailies, some are single try, some are single submission, once again, theyre trying to suit everyone. i 100% agree on the tier system that they need to somehow fix it so that it is somewhat legit. its the first time they have messed with it so im sure they will fine tune it for the next game..

i just dont think people are giving ea as much credit as they deserve for everything they have done for the game this year. think about it last year, people wanted a diffferent putting style, so they brought the precision, people wanted more tour pro dailys, they have them every day, they added weekly tournaments, and even tournaments that evens the playing field with the 100% sweet spot and all those special tournaments. they added an extreme tournaments. they gave people more weather options by being able to play any winds up to 36 mph and being able to add rain. they implemented green HARDNESS into online play which hasn't been done before....

no matter what, people are always going to complain about something that could be better in the game, but if you look back on it, ea is doing a lot with this game and people just don't even care, they will just keep moaning about stuff...its going to be impossible to make EVERYONE happy

No ball control after it leaves the club face.

play tour pro.

You need to hook or fade? Set the shot and take it. Again quit making it an arcade experience

oh, play tour pro.

Leave the putt preview on in all modes including Tour Pro.

now you want to make it easier?

this thread is like watching oprah or lifetime.

oh and frys has a hori for $4

http://www.frys.com/product/5388098?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

ps3.lav01 wrote:

No ball control after it leaves the club face.

play tour pro.

You need to hook or fade? Set the shot and take it. Again quit making it an arcade experience

oh, play tour pro.

Leave the putt preview on in all modes including Tour Pro.

now you want to make it easier?

this thread is like watching oprah or lifetime.

oh and frys has a hori for $4

http://www.frys.com/product/5388098?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Made me giggle - gotta love the sarcasm in these forums.

ps3.lav01 wrote:

No ball control after it leaves the club face.

play tour pro.

You need to hook or fade? Set the shot and take it. Again quit making it an arcade experience

oh, play tour pro.

Leave the putt preview on in all modes including Tour Pro.

now you want to make it easier?

this thread is like watching oprah or lifetime.

oh and frys has a hori for $4

http://www.frys.com/product/5388098?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

I don't own a playstation 3 so this $4 controller would do me no good.

ps3.lav01 wrote:

No ball control after it leaves the club face.

play tour pro.

You need to hook or fade? Set the shot and take it. Again quit making it an arcade experience

oh, play tour pro.

Leave the putt preview on in all modes including Tour Pro.

now you want to make it easier?

this thread is like watching oprah or lifetime.

oh and frys has a hori for $4

http://www.frys.com/product/5388098?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG

It amuses me how people miss the point. There is nothing wrong with the Pro Tour mode if you are seasoned enough for the tighter demands of timing. But that isn't the point. The suggestions I made are for the amateur modes, with the exception of the putt preview. Keeping putt preview in all mode is more a matter of making the game more realistic for the reason I said. Won't make it that much easier since the grid will be off and you only get one look to see if you lined up the putt. And for an expert player like yourself just don't use it. Not everyone is a professional like you.

Perhaps since you shot down my suggestions you would offer some of your professional advice on how the game can be made a better experience for everyone and not just the same 5 or 6 people at the top of every leader board. We would all like to hear it.

You know you got under someone's skin REAL good when they report you

Dom-N-Ant,

Your previous post in this thread has been hidden for name-calling. There is no need for this kind of post here, so please discuss the topic, but leave the name-calling for other forums.

Thanks,

Tim

I have no problems with people shooting the scores that they do if it's for real. I understand under certain conditions low scores are absolutely possible; it's a video game! I am just getting back into Tiger. When I used to play a lot (TW04) I shot 37 at *. Andrews off the whites. It took a certain wind to be able to drive almost every par 4 but it was doable. I was, however, a little shocked to play my first online event and see that someone had made 1 on the par 4 5th at East Lake (560+ yds.). If someone can explain that to me rationally then I completely agree with every score I've seen posted.

ps3.DubMobbn187 wrote:I was, however, a little shocked to play my first online event and see that someone had made 1 on the par 4 5th at East Lake (560+ yds.). If someone can explain that to me rationally then I completely agree with every score I've seen posted.

I believe that was a hole that was converted from a Par 5 to a Par 4. The stats you see during the flyover of some holes are wrong. So what looked like 1 ace was really that 1 person eagled the hole.

There has only been 1 time I've seen a 560 yard drive possible in a tournament and that was an extreme tourney with like a 60 mph tailwind.

The forward spin function has stopped working on Tiger Woods 10, back spin works fine. What happened???? Can't figure it out.....

xbox.jaybird1905 wrote:

xbox.Lulz4Food wrote:

ps3.cccgolfer08 wrote:if you actually read anything on the forums you would see that ea has already explained that they can't tell between controllers. pretty sure that a company can't ban use of a company's controller to be used read up before you start rambling on about a buncha * that isnt true bud

The truth has been said dozens of times in every forum on TW and other golf games since 1998. (yeah, I've been around that long-started online golf when I was 43, now I'm 55 and have no clue where the time went! lol ).

OK. In a nutshell. "The Truth". Those players who have the time to play and map courses and shots will shoot amazing scores everytime. There is not a player on earth that can shoot a super low score in Windy Conditions on any golf game without having mapped the course and recoreded the results. Is this cheating? Nope. I'ts obsession and that's OK by me.

I just fire-up the game and play. No concerns about being the "top dog" on the block. But I do realize how important that is to some people, whether by hook or by crook. Back in the 90's I was obsessed like that with Links but soon tired of all the work. lol

Apologies if this has been asked before:-

I've been playing the live tournaments and I've noticed several times there has been a long par 4 of 475 yards. The daily stats at the begining of the hole tell that something like 70 out 170 people have an Eagle. How? That's one shot on to the fairway and then into the hole. I can see one or two people might fluke it but not that many.

This may sound a silly question but is it a par 4 for everyone or is it different for people on different ratings. Do some play it as a par 5 ?

The fact is we live in a world where ppl will push the envelope as far as they can and if they can push it a little further by cheating why wouldn't they. I know they won't come forward and admit to it (we create user names that hide our true id so it adds fuel to the flame to cheat) but it's obvious. Is -18 under possible without cheating? yes. when playing regularly i post rounds from -15 to -18 on a consitent basis. Is -22 possible? I would have to think so if conditions are favorable and you re a good wind player. The max attribute suits give you the ability to reach all par 5's in two, and every once in a while you (like real tour pros) get lucky once in a while and get a double eagle. you may also get a lucky hole in on a par 3, however I have played 100's of people online in created matches and have agreed that a lucky round of -25 under is possible in a lucky round of golf but to do better than that on a daily basis raises a red flag. I will never believe that ppl are actually that good. So say whatever you want to to defend yourselves (keep in mind that you are defending your username because we don't really know who you are) of cheating because I really don't care if you cheat or not. Just remember that losing builds character, and true champions earn victories. If this offends you then I apologize but if the shoe fits wear it. If your an honest player you have my respect. If you defend cheaters then all I have to say is "if you lay with the dogs then you get fleas"


YOU PROBABLY CHEAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T PLAY REAL GOLF WELL AND HAVE NO CHARACTER TO TAKE LOSING!!!