Isaac91579 wrote:

MANNIACS wrote:Sure is quite in here. <Cricket sound>.

what do you want people to say. We were within two bone headed turnovers away from the super bowl.

we completely outplayed the giants. dislocated nicks shoulder, beat the helllll out of eli all day and at the end of the day, after stopping the giants offense twice we are at home.

You said you completely outplayed the giants and generally blamed the kick returner, yes I know we were aswell I'm just saying it's hypocritical of you to blame your kick returner when you said earlier in the season that it was the Ravens as a team that lost the game as opposed to our kick returner.

For the record I'd say the two best teams got knocked out.

Im not a fan of either of these teams personally but to say that Alex played better than Eli....I just cant see how you came to that conclusion. Yes Alex had more yards per completion but if you only complete 12 passes and two of those passes combined are for 100+ yards, then he better have a higher yards per completion rating than Eli who completed 32 passes. Also Alex completed less than 50% of his passes which isnt too much to brag about. If it wasnt for the 1 73 yard pass to vernon, there is no way that Alex would have a better QBR. Also, those third down conversion are sad to even look at. You also have to take into consideration that Eli was going against argueably the best defense in the NFL and he still managed to do what i would consider very well. While Alex on the other hand going against the Giants D, c'mon now, Rex Grossman played better against that D. With that being said, the 49ers played their hearts out, I think Alex just had an off game, or maybe the team relied on him to do too much, i personally dont know. In the end i would definitely say that Eli played better than Alex did.

Either way Eli has been fantastic this season, should at least be a 95 overall.

Yeah, and who ever thinks eli played better only looked at the box score.

eli played good in the first half cause everyone was open...

In the second he didnt, and should of thrown two picks.

he threw the ball. 58 TIMES.

and only had barely 300 yards, and has many MANY MANY more weapons than alex.

Alex has vernon.

Eli has ballard, cruz, nicks, manningham. give those to alex then we can talk....

Isaac91579 wrote:Yeah, and who ever thinks eli played better only looked at the box score.

eli played good in the first half cause everyone was open...

In the second he didnt, and should of thrown two picks.

he threw the ball. 58 TIMES.

and only had barely 300 yards, and has many MANY MANY more weapons than alex.

Alex has vernon.

Eli has ballard, cruz, nicks, manningham. give those to alex then we can talk....

I remember earlier when the Ravens played the 49ers all you did was talk up KYLE WILLIAMS Crabtree Delanie Walker and Frank Gore.... and now all of the sudden, theyre bad to you? lol Alright.

Only a homer would say Alex Smith played better than ELI. Eli carried the Giants, Alex Smith did not. Both defenses played awesome. The Niners defense stepped up and the offense did not. Who is Michael Crabtree? He is a #2 WR at best and has to be considered as some what of a bust due to his high draft position and salary.

That said, here is my take defending Alex Smith to some extent. It was not all on him.

One week after playing the best game of his career, Alex Smith had a pretty bad game based on stats . I don’t put it all on him though. His WRs were just not getting open, it’s that simple. Only 4 players on the Niners caught at least one pass, compared to 8 different players having a catch for the Giants. Part of this was poor play calling by the Niners and part of it was the WRs not getting open. Look no further than the dumpoffs to Frank Gore in this game. In the regular season Gore caught a grand total of 17 passes, in this game he lead the team with 6 catches.

I put much of the blame on Michael Crabtree, he was absolutely invisible. He caught 1 pass for 3 yards. This is not the type of performance one would expect from a high 1st round draft pick and a the #1 WR on the Niners. I am sure Jerry Rice and T.O. just shoke their heads all game in disbelief when watching Crabtree’s horrible performance.

I expect the EA ratings folks to give Smith some decreases in some attributes this week, but per Donny Moore they made a mistake decreasing his SPD and ACC last week, so that will go up. I also would not be surprised to see his deep accuracy get a boost, since Niner fans have really been campaigning for that.

Other than correcting his SPD and ACC, I would leave Smith alone. He had a good year and it finally came to an end Sunday.

Smith current ratings: 86 OVR, 75 SPD, 76 ACC, 84 AWR, 87 THP, 84 THA, 88 SAC, 85 MAC, 75 DAC, 81 RUN, 74 PAC

JaySlay2 wrote:
Crabtree is looking like the #1 WR we wanted.

Williams is the sleeper of the group. Hes working his way up little by little and is making his name known now so he can keep a starting spot. He has some of the best hands on the team in real life he needs a major upgrade.

Hes definitely making his name known alright lmao

gotta love someone who in one sentence says that alex had a bad game and in the next goes but his receivers werent getting open.

doesnt one hand have to wash the other?

Isaac91579 wrote:gotta love someone who in one sentence says that alex had a bad game and in the next goes but his receivers werent getting open.

doesnt one hand have to wash the other?

Compared to his other good games this season, this game was bad (below average). My point was that although Smith had a poor game, it was not all on him. I can see how that might seem confusing. That doesn't mean Smith couldn't have made some better passes as well. So yes Smith (one hand) and WRs (the other) didn't wash eachother.

Good season Niners, plenty to build on next year.

As a observer/supporter of alex as i have been since alex came out of utah, i gotta be un-biased however and say he got outplayed by eli which was also facing a great d. Second, alex is not elite, alex has proven he can be solid/game manager so far. I'd say he is a tier b1 qb for now so chill with any flaming! Lets see how he does next year.
So guys take off those niner colored glasses and get real, eli > alex.

/thread!

Isaac91579 wrote:Yeah, and who ever thinks eli played better only looked at the box score.

eli played good in the first half cause everyone was open...

In the second he didnt, and should of thrown two picks.

he threw the ball. 58 TIMES.

and only had barely 300 yards, and has many MANY MANY more weapons than alex.

Alex has vernon.

Eli has ballard, cruz, nicks, manningham. give those to alex then we can talk....

Eli makes his recievers good, his top reciever has 2 years and experience and he has effectively a rookie playing at number 2 spot, and they both had 1000 yard, pro bowl caliper seasons. You could say it's down to the recievers to get open, but a lot of the time good quarterbacks are good because they can make throws that aren't open.

I'm not being a downer on the 49ers for no reason, I personally think they had a fantastic season, and the defense was amazing. Alex Smith is labelled as a game manager for a reason, perhaps in the offseason he can work on becoming elite, but this season and that game he was outplayed by Eli, but so were most QBs.

Eli played the top 5 defense of the 49ers and
Alex played the 26th ranked defense so to anyone who said Alex Smith is better or played better is on crack.

Isaac91579 wrote:tmurda.

Alex threw the ball 26 times.

eli threw it 58 and barely broke 300 yards. He did all of his damage in the first half, should of thrown two picks, and did nothing to put his team in position to win. he was completely dominated by alex, who had ONE receiver to throw to in vernon.

I dont know who you are a fan of, but stats dont lie.

Alex, higher yards per completion and qbr.....

FACTS OVER FICTION.

You do realize that by saying "he was completely dominated by alex" you have lost all credibility and made yourself look like an idiot right? I will remember your name and next time I see it I won't read what you posted. You obviously have some type of mental disorder so I will not insult you for your handicap.

Hey 9ers fans, Im at work bored as hell so I decied to talk about this years upcoming free agent period and draft on who you guys are inquiruing about and who you believe we should bring in. If possible try to put some detail behind your reasoning. I think it will make for some convo and for somebody like me who likes to see what people think about our team and moves we should make.

Qb - Josh Johnson ( I think bringing him in would give us a little competition at the QB position pushing Alex to work harder and getting better at the skills he lacks. He knows Harbaughs system of the QB position and was pretty good in college 43 TDs to 1 Int his senior year. He doesnt fit the Bucs system but I think he could make for a great Back up or even potential starter in Harbs system).

RB - Chris Rainey/Doug Martin (I'd like for our team to bring in one or both of these guys either through the draft of undrafted free agency. Rainey proves nice speed and can play multiple positions like RB/WR/KR/PR and Harbaugh likes people that can do numerous things. Martin is a Gore type of back and possess good vision good hands and seems to be a very good playmaker. He also could be a potential replacement for Gore who is getting more banged up)

WR - Bowe/Colston/Jackson/Jackson through FA (I would like to take any of these guys in FA. Names already explain why)

WR - Wright/D.Jones/M.Mcnutt/M.Jones. Streeter (All these guys have pretty good size and have potential to make this team explode through the air. Depending on how FA goes Id like to see 2 of these guys brought in later on in the draft. Some are 2nd rounders while others are projected to go in the 4th-5th round. With Harbaughs help these guys could be great)

More To come!

QB - i totally agree about josh johnson we would of had him last year but we had a lockout.. he knows harbaugh system from University of San Diego they were a deadly tandem.. plus he is a hometown kid which could be scary but should work..

RB - not sure but i say lamichael james.. should be able to get him late 2nd or 3rd rd.. he has break away spd which we need at rb.. gore is turning into cedric benson good vision but lacks that break away spd.. he always get caught from behind

WR - Stevie Johnson big physical wr that can beat one on one coverage.. same as Vincent Jackson or Dwayne Bowe.. Desean Jackson love to have him cause of his game breaking possiblities on the outside which would free up Delanie Walker and Vernon Davis down the middle of the field

Guard - Lets get depth and go after the saints guard.. they cant afford both and that would help us out a lot.. i think its Carl Nicks thats the free agent

TE - Most people prob wont agree with me here but lets get another TE and create miss matches everywere.. Fred Davis from redskins.. TE dont ask for as much mobey as a wr but since we have 2 that can play wr and multiple positions and add Fred Davis how do u play us.. u bring in db to guard them we run the ball and if they keep backers in well we all know wut will happened then.. then anyone of them can play aa hybrid fb like brit but faster and more athletic